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T-34 Mentor

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 11:19 PM

Nice job on the Mentor!

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 11:15 PM

Always good to put a gloss coat/acrylic after decaling.  But Flory is inert so not necessary.  

I use turpenoid and oil for panel washes.

Lots of youtube work from way better modelers than I.  Flory has youtube videos as well 

Thanks,

John

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    July 2019
  • From: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posted by Bobstamp on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 7:43 PM

@keavdog: Thank you, John, for your helpful (and convincing) comments and images about Flory washes. The washes aren't commonly available. In fact, in an on-line search I was only able to find single bottles of most but not all of the colours in the set of eight bottles, but I went ahead and ordered the five that I found.

As I've said, I know little about weathering, but I want to try. In your experience, what painted surfaces — flat, semi-glossy, or glossy — are best to try weathering on? I tried oil paint and thinner on my glossy T-34 but had a very hard time getting it to show at all. Any tips will be greatly appreciated.

Bob  

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:13 AM

Here's the set I bought - 

From my recollection I used this brown for the Mentor

Gray for the Phantom

And Light for the Hellcat (questionable choice but gave a lot of panel detail)

And Grime for the undercarriage on a couple of the kits

For natural metal finish I've been post shading with Tamiya clear smoke - be interesting to think about a Flory wash here - just haven't done one since I bought the set.

Haven't tried these on a camo kit yet but I have tried MIG light sand filter via airbrush and it blends the SEA/British WWII colors nicely.  Still experimenting here.

Before...

To be fair this was after the MIG filter and a dull coat

 For the camo I think I will try the black or dark dirt.  I have a Hurricane coming up so we'll see

 

Thanks,

John

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    July 2019
  • From: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posted by Bobstamp on Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:16 AM

@keavdog: The Flory washes sound interesting. What colours would you recommend for aircraft? So far, I'm looking at yellow, camouflaged, olive drab, and metallic aircraft (mostly WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, and propliners).

 

Bob

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 10:47 PM

Thanks Chem.  Great little kit

Thanks,

John

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    June 2017
Posted by Chemteacher on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 10:05 PM
Fine job. Nicely done.

On the bench: Revell-USS Arizona; Airfix P-51D in 1/72

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:39 PM

Thanks guys.  I've done 3 kits with flory so far and pleased every time.  

Thanks,

John

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  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:00 PM
Fantastic work! I'm gonna have to grab some Flory after seeing you guys use it.
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    June 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:31 PM

keavdog, great looking build. I really like the Flory wash. Makes the detail really pop. I have to get some of that stuff.

OK. In the stash: Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 6:53 PM

Thanks Don, i like the trainers too.   

Thanks BK.

Bob, I'm familiar with your story.  Amazing you and the pilot survived.  I cant say enough about Flory washes.    You slop them on with a big brush, let it try then start taking it off with a damp cloth.  Super easy,  and no damage to paint as its clay and water.  

Believe me, I have done your weathering techniques pleanty of times ;p

Thanks,

John

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    July 2019
  • From: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posted by Bobstamp on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 6:40 PM

Nicely done! I completed a Minicraft T-34B a few months ago, and also encountered nose weight problems. I solved the problem by nearly filling the nosewheel well with Liquid Gravity and then covering it with a small, thin sheet of styrene which I painted flat black to hide the liquid gravity. 

Your weathering is great. Weathering is still a bit of a mystery to me. I just watched three YouTube videos about using salt for weathering/chipping, and still don't really understand the process. The models I've completed look "weathered" because of damage from the building process — errant bits of glue, too much/too little sanding, fingerprint in the paint on one, poor spraying/painting technique, incompatible types of paint, canopy scuffs and scratches. But, you know, I'm pretty proud of those models. They sure look better than the mongrel dogs I was building in the 1950s!

I've had a more "intimate" experience with the T-34B than most modellers. See my web page, Surviving a plane crash in the Black Range

Bob 

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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    June 2014
Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:52 AM

Excellent work there. This one looks convincingly real. Well done.

BK

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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:51 AM

Very nice! I love trainers.  Only military aircraft I ever got to fly :-) 

I do wish kit mfgs would tell us how much weight to add, or add cast weight pieces.  At the prices they ask for, I can't believe they couldn't afford it.

The irony is, I just finished a Roden kit, and they did include how much weight to add to the nose.  But the plane, a Boeing Stratoliner, is a tail dragger!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Monday, June 1, 2020 11:57 PM

Thanks for the kind words - I like the idea of pinning to a base.  My goto is clear sprue 'stands' but that's cool - just need to consider shelf space

Thanks,

John

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    November 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, June 1, 2020 10:56 PM

OH man that is a great looking build. I love the color and the weathering is just right showing use but not abuse.

Get yourself a nice routed wood base at HL for a couple of bucks and make a tarmac and pin the wheels to the base eliminating the sitting issue.  

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, June 1, 2020 10:53 PM

Well done, John.  Looks like a hard working trainer.  Guess I'll start looking for some kryptonite to balance mine.  Must be pretty heavy to hold Superman down.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
T-34 Mentor
Posted by keavdog on Monday, June 1, 2020 3:40 PM

Did this one for the trainer group build. This is the nicest Minicraft kit I've built.  Really fun build and my first time using MRP paint - which sprayed like a champ right out of the bottle.  All together a great build.   I wanted to pose the canopy open but the kit just didn't agree.  One more for my trainer collection :)

Despite putting a bunch of weight in the nose, she's still a tail sitter :/ 

And the Flory wash :)

Thanks,

John

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