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Trumpeter's 1/48 C-47 Skytrain "D-Day Mini Whiskey 7" Completed.

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  • Member since
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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Thursday, February 17, 2022 8:16 AM

Big Smile

Not at all! I enjoy hearing how a build went together, what the modeler thought, all that stuff!

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Keyda81 on Thursday, February 17, 2022 7:56 AM

the Baron

Thanks, Keyda!  I'm always interested to hear from those who build both, what they think of the two kits.

 

No problem!  Hope I didn't bore you too much with my "book" lol.

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:01 AM

Thanks, Keyda!  I'm always interested to hear from those who build both, what they think of the two kits.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Keyda81 on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 6:51 PM

the Baron

That is an outstanding finish, Keyda!  And it's a fitting tribute, too.

Having built both the old Monogram C-47 and the Trumpeter kit, do you have a preference?  Would only build one or the other again, or are they both enjoyable enough that you could build both?

 

 

Thanks Baron!  I guess it depends on what version of Whiskey 7 I'm doing, lol.  The Trumpeter was a nice kit, start to finish, aside from the instructions.  Those were horrible.  The engines are a bit fiddly, and I landed up cutting locating tabs right off.  I do like the recessed panel lines, and the rivet detail, but that is something you don't really see from a few feet away anyway.  I can't remember if there is an option to modify the tail on the Monogram kit or not, it has the civilian tail cone on it, which is good for making a current version of Whiskey 7.  The Trumpeter just has the glider tail.  It also has that pesky 7th window you need to do something about, Monogram doesn't have it.  There is more detail in the Trumpeter kit, I like the little oil tanks in the gear bays, but unless someone wants to die by picking up it and looking, you aren't going to see in there anyway.  I have plans to build both kits again.  I'd like to do two more 1/48th builds of Whiskey in her other war time markings, which I'll use the Trumpeter kits for.  I still have everything I need to do the lighted LED, and spinning prop version as well, which would be the Monogram kit.  They are both enjoyable kits, and they both turn out a perfectly good representation to the real thing.  Keep in mind with the Trumpeter kit I would at least get the corrected rudder.  The kit rudder is made to look like it's metal.  I landed up getting the exhausts too, but in my opinion those are needed.  It's just a bit of a different shape on the exhaust outlet.  I didn't bother with the corrected cowlings either.  Not many people are going to notice.  I didn't, and work on Whiskey all the time, lol.

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 3:57 PM

That is an outstanding finish, Keyda!  And it's a fitting tribute, too.

Having built both the old Monogram C-47 and the Trumpeter kit, do you have a preference?  Would only build one or the other again, or are they both enjoyable enough that you could build both?

 

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Keyda81 on Sunday, February 13, 2022 11:30 AM

Thanks Mongoose!

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Posted by TheMongoose on Sunday, February 13, 2022 7:00 AM

Keyda81

 

 
GMorrison

Yes good catch and no harm being a rivet counter, I'm proud to be one. The friction is when said person lays their trip on others.

There were DC-3s that had the last two windows on starboard side connected to form one long one. And there were the sleepers with little port windows over the bunks. Lots of variations.

 

Bill

 

 

 

Or in the case of the static C-47 at the museum(not owned by us) 8 windows.

 

Over the past few days)obviously not yesterday, I was in a freezing cold hangar most of the day) I worked on getting the pieces painted and together so I could assemble the center wing section.

I literally had to snicker when I put these together.  I know just how much stuff is actually behind that silver fire seal.  On the model its just open space.

I love the fact this kit has some detail in the gear bays.  The tiny little oil tank, which in the real thing is a complete pain to get in and out.

Center wing section is now in one piece.  Literally not locating or alignment tabs to speak of anywhere, so it was a bit fiddly to get lined up.

I'm close to be doing with the putty, sand, prime, repeat phase on the fuselage.  Just a few more small spots I'd like to sand a bit more.

Then I can start the same process on the center wing section, join the two pieces, and work on any seams there. 

 

 

 

ohhh that's some sweet work on those center seams! 

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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Posted by Keyda81 on Saturday, February 12, 2022 6:27 PM

lurch

looks fantastic. You did an excelent job on everything.

 

Thank you!

 

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Posted by lurch on Saturday, February 12, 2022 2:49 AM

looks fantastic. You did an excelent job on everything.

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Posted by Keyda81 on Friday, February 11, 2022 10:00 AM

Tojo72

Looks great,puts me in mind of Band of Brothers

 

Thanks Tojo!

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 4:27 PM

Looks great,puts me in mind of Band of Brothers

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Posted by Keyda81 on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 4:19 PM

GAF

An excellent job on the C-47, Keyda!  Another one to be proud of!

Gary

 

Thank you!

 

Someone on FB, very politely pointed out something, and I'm glad they did.  I had thought about whether or not Whiskey 7 would of been equipped with an SRC-717C radome on D-Day.  She is pictured with one during Market Garden.  But I'm not that keen on all that stuff.  I couldn't find many pictures of it online either.  I moved on and forgot about it.  I was told she would of been equipped with it since she was a serial leader.  So I spent a few hours this afternoon scratch making one from a cap, and a bit of apoxie sculpt.  While I was waiting for paint and stuff to dry I opted to add the tape to the door hinges as well.  A detail I forgot I wanted to do.

In her home with Mini Whiskey 7 #2.  Mini MMB got booted from the cabinet, lol.  The real MMB is no longer at the museum anyway.  The owners had her sent off to another museum in California.  Bit of a sour taste left in a lot of peoples mouths after all that. 

 

GAF
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  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 2:15 PM

An excellent job on the C-47, Keyda!  Another one to be proud of!

Gary

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    August 2016
Posted by Keyda81 on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 2:04 PM

Thanks Bronco Billy!

keavdog, Thanks!  I'm debating taking it with me this weekend so the "guys" at the hangar can see it.  Nervous about transporting it though.

MR TOM SCHRY, Thank you!  I am familar with the Basler BT-67.  I think it's great they are keeping these airframes going, but still prefer the sound of the old radials.

Aggieman, Thank you!  The instructions are horrible.  From a couple feet away it would be hard to tell the difference between the two kits.  You would have to keep up close and personal.  Both kits have their downfalls which is normal.  I had fun, and frustration building them both. 

Shipwreck, Thank you!  I've thought about it a couple of times, but never thought I had anything good enough to enter.  That and having to transport it makes me nervous, lol.

 

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:58 AM

Nice job Keyda. She even has rivets; anybody countin' them? Hey, you ever think ofentering your art work in a show?

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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    January 2015
  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 9:55 AM

Nice job.  

I did that one along with an original release (from 1978) of the Monogram kit.  While the Trumpeter kit probably went together better and had more detailing in certain areas, I preferred the Monogram kit for its instructions alone.  In fact, I believe I used the Monogram instruction book to guide for painting the Trumpeter interior because, as you said, the Trumpeter instructions suck.  I've found that to be the case with just about all of the Trumpeter kits I've built.

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    July 2015
Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 7:54 AM

Wonderful job on this historically classic aircraft!  Your construction, painting, & weathering all made this kit into a prize winner.  It's a testament to the engineers who designed this plane that so many are still flying today.  Here in Oshkosh, WI there is a business called Basler Air where they install turbo prop engines on this airframe.  I get to see these classics flying overhead all the time!  A job well done!

TJS

TJS

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 12:32 AM

Turned out really nice.  Now see if you can keep the museum from stealing it Stick out tongue

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Detroit, Michigan
Posted by Bronco Billy on Tuesday, February 8, 2022 11:22 PM

Great job Keyda81 on both the interior and exterior. It looks like it ready to be loaded with paratroopers.

So many kits so few hours in the day

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    August 2016
Posted by Keyda81 on Tuesday, February 8, 2022 7:47 PM

Hoss WA, Thank you!  I think the most annoying part about the seat belts was getting them glued in place the right way, lol.

 

keavdog, Thanks!  That was my first attempt at it.  I'm glad I did it that way.  I was just going to use the decals, but I worried they wouldn't sink into the rivet detail, and just stick out like a sore thumb.  I've always had issues with finding W7 decals.  I can find the 7, but not the W.  Making a mask by hand with a hobby knife was not fun, many failed attempts.  The Cricut was a game changer, and honestly if I can go that route I will.  Need to find a pattern for the National Insignia, lol.

 

After 80 hours she's finally finished!  Not sure if I mentioned it previously, but I did use Quickboost's corrected resin rudder, and exhaust on this.  Overall not a bad kit.  Somethings were a bit fiddly and needed fine tuning to fit properly.  The instructions suck.  So I certainly wouldn't reccomend it for a beginner.  Thankfully I know my way around.  Can't speak for their decals, since I didn't use any of them.  The decals on the prop blades were from an aftermarket set, and the only decals I used on the whole thing. 

Enough chatter, on with the pics.

I even managed to get the PE brake lines on there this time, lol.  I found glueing them on in increments worked out very well instead of trying to place the whole thing at once, start at one end and work to the other end.

I do love the detail in the gear bay compared to the lack there of in the Monogram kit.  A lot easier to install this oil tank than on the real thing.

So this is my little tribute to the men that jumped on D-Day.  Including Leslie Cruise, who actually jumped from Whiskey 7 on that day.  Unfortunately he recently passed away, and I never got to meet him.  It would of been my absolute honor to shake his hand and thank him for his service. 

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, February 8, 2022 12:25 PM

Great progress.  Close to the finish line now.  The national insignia look great - I have yet to try that.  And your Cricut seems to be getting put to great use.  Life with out decals is tempting... 

Thanks,

John

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    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Tuesday, February 8, 2022 4:53 AM

Wow! What a project! All the seatbelts...  

Your paintwork and markings are superb. Excellent invasion stripes. Looking forward to the rest. 

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Posted by Keyda81 on Monday, February 7, 2022 7:48 PM

fotofrank

Keyda, the Invasion Stripes are excellent. Just like the real thing. Well done.

 

Thank you!  Was actually kind of fun not having to worry about them being perfect. 

Only managed a couple hours at the bench today.  Had to do "adult" things like laundry, and errands, lol.

I got a gloss coat on between running around.  Then after dinner worked on doing some weathering.  Panel line wash first, then some grime, and mud on the wing roots from "boots" going up and down fueling and checking oil.  Some oil, and hydraulic leaks.  I tried to keep the invasion stripes themselves fairly clean.  They wouldn't of been that dirty considering they were just painted on maybe a day or two before D-Day. 

Hopefully I can get more time at the bench tomorrow.  I'm excited to get this finished up!

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  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Monday, February 7, 2022 8:58 AM

Keyda, the Invasion Stripes are excellent. Just like the real thing. Well done.

OK. In the stash: Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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    August 2016
Posted by Keyda81 on Sunday, February 6, 2022 8:25 PM

Lots of painting done today.  Hubby bought me a Cricut for my birthday last year, and I've used it a few times, but my main reason for wanting it was so I could make paint masks.  Finally got to use it for that purpose today.  I had intended to make the W7, and the 37 on the nose.  Turns out I needed the R as well.  The one that came with the Montex masks was just too small.  Took a bit of trial and error to get the right size, and find a text that was suitable.  I still had to modify the 7 a little bit with a hobby knife.

National Insignias painted on.  Bit stressful for me, but worth it in the end.

Mask for the tail number cut with my Cricut.

All of her markings!

Next up was the invasion stripes, which for some reason I was very nervous about.  I used my better judgement and decided to mask off the area for the entire stripe, and lay down some white paint with the airbrush to make a base.  Otherwise I'd be painting fifteen layers with a brush.  After putting down the base I went in with a brush and painted the white.  Then marked out where the black needed to go, and added those. 

Really starting to look the part now.  Still quite a bit to do.  Needs a gloss coat, then weathering, final assembly.  Kind of nice not using decals, and being able to skip an extra gloss coat.  I usually do a gloss after paint, lay down decals, and another coat of gloss before weathering, and a matte coat. 

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Posted by Keyda81 on Saturday, February 5, 2022 7:02 PM

Another 7 hours at th bench today finally resulted in paint.  But before I get to that.  I realized last night when kind of looking ahead to things, which I do from time to time, that the kit had the postion of the foot ball antenna in the totally wrong location.  So first order of business was to relocate that. 

The white spot is where I covered the original mounting hole, quite a ways back is a green mark where I made the hole for the correct location.

I decided I wanted to give a chipping method a try.  I usually just carefully make marks with silver paint and a brush.  But I figured I would give this a go.  I painted on some aluminum, clear coated it, then used masking liquid where I wanted the chips, hence the blue specks.

It worked well in some spots, and others it just didn't want to come off.  Took so much effort to scrap it off that it scrapped of the paint competely.  I know about the salt method, but really don't want that mess in my bedroom.  I'm sure I'll find something that works for me at some point.  Maybe I'll use Elmer's glue next time.  Seems like that would come off easier.

Mini Pratt and Whitney 1830! Fitted the nose case to see how it looked.

The big accomplishment of the day.....paint!

I still have a lot more work to do.  I am hoping to paint on all her markings aside from her tail number which will be decals.  I need to make the masks for the W7, and the 37.  Hoping I can accomplish that with my Cricut.  I have the Montex masks for the National Insignia, and for the R on the tail.  So maybe, just maybe she'll have some markings tomorrow.  The invasion stripes will be painted on with a brush.  Which makes me more nervous than masking and painting them with an airbrush.  But this one has to be as accurate as I can get it.  We recently lost Mr. Lesile P. Cruise Jr.  He was a paratrooper on D-Day that jumped from Whiskey 7.  So I feel like this will pay a little bit of homage to him and everyone else who served. 

 

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Posted by Keyda81 on Saturday, February 5, 2022 6:48 PM

lurch

Thats looking good. Glad you are feeling better.

 

Thank you.  Very slowly feeling better.  It was a whopper of a head cold that's for sure.  It's been several years since I've been sick, so I guess I was due.

 

Guess I'm going to do two updates.  It looks like I forgot to post yesterdays.  Whoops.

Finally happy with the finish, and done with putty, sand, prime, repeat, and all the rescribing that goes with it.

Glued on the wings, and temporarily mounted the engine cowling, and intake scoops for painting.  Now is the time I start smacking the wings into everything on, near, next to, or above my work bench.

Exhaust installed on the engines.

 

 

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Posted by lurch on Friday, February 4, 2022 7:17 PM

Thats looking good. Glad you are feeling better.

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Posted by Keyda81 on Thursday, February 3, 2022 7:34 PM

It's been slow going the last several days, as I landed up picking up a very nasty head cold from a friend at the museum.  No, it's not Covid.  I've managed to avoid that so far (knock on wood). 

At this point I'm not a huge fan of the way this kit is designed.  There are some minor fit issues, but a lot of them.  I have had to file away at several areas to get things to sit properly.  I am being very picky with this one as well.  It does have some pieces meet up where there are natural seam lines on the airplane, but the gaps are too large.  So I've taken to the putty and sanding to close them up most of the way, or all the way, and I'll rescribe where I need to. 

Center wing section glued in place.  Before I started any putty and sanding work.  You can see a sizeable wing root seam.  There is a seam line there on the plane itself where the wing fairing goes from the fuselage to the wing.  I just need to make it much smaller.

In between rounds of putty, sand, prime, repeat I've been working on the engines.  The kit piece with the push rod tubes was very brittle, and things broke as soon as you touched them.  So I snipped them all off the ring, and replaced them with round styrene.

Painted the engines and exhaust peices while I was at it.

What a difference some black paint, and a wash makes.

Spark plug leads installed.

So engines are just about finished up.  Just need to install the nose case and the prop govenror.  Funny I actually know what these parts are called now.  Big Smile  I knew nothing when I built the 1st Mini Whiskey 7. 

I should be able to make some good progress this weekend.  I'm not going to the museum.  Don't want to get anyone sick.  I'm starting to feel better, but very slowly.  So I'm not going to take any chances.

 

 

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