Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker B Trumpeter Scale 1:32

Here is one of the few mistates I already made.

I sanded off the little round pivot point from bot elevators, thinking that they are left overs from the sprue.

Drilled out and put the woodemn one, hope it will do the trick. 

No pictures showing !!

I know, I can not upload picture from PC, it has to be link to a website.

Correct?

arb65912

I know, I can not upload picture from PC, it has to be link to a website.

Correct?

Correct. Photos have to be on some version of a hosting site, then paste the links into your post here.

BTW...you're not the first to lop off bits of a part thinking they're sprue or tabs. We've all been there! 

gregbale

 

 

arb65912

I know, I can not upload picture from PC, it has to be link to a website.

Correct?

 

 

 

 

 

Correct. Photos have to be on some version of a hosting site, then paste the links into your post here.

BTW...you're not the first to lop off bits of a part thinking they're sprue or tabs. We've all been there! 

 

Thanks Greg!!!

Understood, now I have to tink of some fast free hosting site, any ideas?

I want to share pictures as this is absolutely necessary.

Personnaly, I use   https://imgbb.com/

It's free to sign up and pretty siimple to upoad and share pics...........must be pretty simple as I use it 

Tubosteve

Personnaly, I use   https://imgbb.com/

It's free to sign up and pretty siimple to upoad and share pics...........must be pretty simple as I use it 

 

Thanks, I will give it a try shortly.

For test these are from my Dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s8cofectwf9lkdh/TEMP1.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvfq5u5c5w4cdl8/TEMP2.jpg?dl=0

Another try.

I like it a lot!!!

Now I am all set for sharing images. ;-)

Another try. I think this one will be the best.

Will try tomorrow, very late for me.

I built two of those last year, I replaced those nubs with music wire that fit well in to the stabs and filled the area in the tail with epoxy which I then drilled out to fit the pins.  Trumpeter's engineering there is way understrength.  Make sure to install the little fairings that fit on top of the stabilators after you install the stabilators, if you glue them on first it is difficult to install the stabs.

Hi John,

Nice idea with the music wires.

Do you mean fairings that attach into the little holes on the top of stabilators?

Yes.

jeaton01

Yes.

 

Hi John again. :-)

I just looked at your SU-27s. Wow, they are a measterpiece. I am not a scale modeler but if I wanted to build and finish like that, it would take me years of trial and error. Awesome work!!!! 

You know I am building SU-27 for flight simulator called X-Plane so this build is kind of additional thing. I have to admit that it is very addictive, I mean making the scale model. I find it really relaxing and making mistakes is OK, it is a learning process.

Some mistakes are infixable, like my broken canopy, I tried to "open it up" and I broke it into 2 pieces and morecracks. I glued it back together and will sand and polish but the cracks will never go away. I have tried to find a new one but no luck.

Talking about SU-27 Stabilators, how did you glue them? I know there needs to be a gap around them as they move in real life. I assume that your piano wire was relatively long if it was the only piece holding them in place.

This is how bad my hand brush attempt was using Vallejo Air Paint.

Now, I know, they are really designed for airbrushing.

Main mistake was that I was still brushing while the paint already started drying, lesson learned

As long as you learn from your mistakes then they are not bad ones. We all have made them at some point or another. Like you said we are always learning new techniques.For someone new to this you are doing pretty good.

lurch

As long as you learn from your mistakes then they are not bad ones. We all have made them at some point or another. Like you said we are always learning new techniques.For someone new to this you are doing pretty good.

 

Yes, makes sense and thank you! 

Yes, the piano wire was as long as I could make it as it was the only support.  I filled the inside of the stabs and the aft fuselage attach areas with epoxy and then drilled them out to a close fit.  Super glue was used to glue the pins into the stabs and then just white glue into the aft fuselage.  That way if something bumps the stabs it is an easy fix. 

Thank you for your nice words.  To really enjoy the hobby an airbrush is a great tool, but some people are good enough with a brush to get very nice results.  I'm not one of those people.

jeaton01

Yes, the piano wire was as long as I could make it as it was the only support.  I filled the inside of the stabs and the aft fuselage attach areas with epoxy and then drilled them out to a close fit.  Super glue was used to glue the pins into the stabs and then just white glue into the aft fuselage.  That way if something bumps the stabs it is an easy fix. 

Thank you for your nice words.  To really enjoy the hobby an airbrush is a great tool, but some people are good enough with a brush to get very nice results.  I'm not one of those people.

 

I think, I understand, John. 

If this is the design of gluing in the stabilators, than it is a quite poor design. The original taps were small anyway and having them supporting all these big control surfaces in place is not a very proper design wise.

I might just do what you did, the trick is to feel that are in fuselage, will look into it later on.

I am thinking about airbrushing the vertical stabs with rudders as well as elevators and gluing them at the end. I am sure not very popular idea, what do you think?

I love airbrushing, I can not imagine brushing all these big surfaces by hand...

Enjoy everything!!!

Cheers, AJ 

If the fit were better gluing those surfases on last would be a good idea, but you will likely find as I did that getting good alignment and fit with the vertical fins will make that difficult.  Do lots of test fitting in that area.

jeaton01

If the fit were better gluing those surfases on last would be a good idea, but you will likely find as I did that getting good alignment and fit with the vertical fins will make that difficult.  Do lots of test fitting in that area.

 

Yes, good  thinking, John. Thanks!

I will make final decision when I have fuselage bottom and top glued together.

I am also tempted by very "crazy" or at least not very common idea. You know how wings gets into the pins at the bottom of the wings so they will never come out after fuselage halves are joined?

I saw the guy struggling with wings dropping, actually one wing dropping and it took him a long time for it to get glued to the fuselage winthout hanging down.

These two pins that will not let the wings to slide out also do not let them to get closer to the fuselage side to get the better fit for gluing area where wing root touches the fuselage side.

Crazy idea is, what if I make wings to be able to slide in and then glue them after making the mentioned fit as good as possible?

I finnaly tried Stynylrez Acrylic Primer White.

I added some Vallejo Airbrush Flow Improver as nozzle was getting dried and it went nice. I think that is what the primer should be after it cures. Surface is hard, you can sand through and there is no peeling or edges, smooth transition. Love it.

I don't remember any issues with the wing fit on the two I built, but it could be I just don't remember.

jeaton01

I don't remember any issues with the wing fit on the two I built, but it could be I just don't remember.

 

Let's see later on. I need to really think it over. I will post here.