LOSERS!!!

John P

Member since
February 2003
From: Joisey

LOSERS!!!

Posted by John P on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:04 PM

Here's a little collection I've managed to accumulate over the years:
http://www.geocities.com/johnpayne.geo/losers/losers.html
Enjoy :)

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BlackWolf3945

Member since
December 2002
From: Pominville, NY

Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:48 PM

Catchy title, there John!

That's a pretty cool page, lemmee ask U...

That DML kit of the F-23, did it have any real problems going together?

Fade to Black...

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John P

Member since
February 2003
From: Joisey

Posted by John P on Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:09 AM

No show-stoppers, no. The canopy doesn't fit great, though. And good luck getting through the entire build without breaking those tails off once or twice! :D.

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djmodels1999

Member since
December 2002
From: United Kingdom / Belgium

Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:15 AM

Very nice collection, John. I like the Scamp best. Very sexy machine, I think. What about the YF-17..?

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:55 AM

Great site. I didn't even realize there were kits for some of those aircraft.

In reference to the YF-23: I was stationed at Edwards AFB when the "flyoff" was conducted. In talking with some of the test pilots for the program, they said the YF-23 was probably the better aircraft, but the F-22 would be selected. Why? Because Northrop already had the contract to build the B-2. The government didn't want one company to produce the new bomber and fighter, leaving the other aerospace companies out in the (bankruptcy?) cold. Politics! Clown [:o)]

Gotta love it.

AFIntel, TSgt USAF

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U-96

Member since
February 2003
From: United Kingdom

Posted by U-96 on Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:06 AM

Nice theme. I always felt the YF-23 looked better than the '22.

You must love grey by now Wink [;)]

On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:11 AM

E-gads! I´ve never seen that Boeing JSF in profile! Its almost a charicature! Not too disimilair to a tadpole either.. Very strange.. Rather less than pretty..

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markuz226

Member since
January 2003
From: Everett

Posted by markuz226 on Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:36 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by AFIntel

Great site. I didn't even realize there were kits for some of those aircraft.

In reference to the YF-23: I was stationed at Edwards AFB when the "flyoff" was conducted. In talking with some of the test pilots for the program, they said the YF-23 was probably the better aircraft, but the F-22 would be selected. Why? Because Northrop already had the contract to build the B-2. The government didn't want one company to produce the new bomber and fighter, leaving the other aerospace companies out in the (bankruptcy?) cold. Politics! Gotta love it.

AFIntel, TSgt USAF

I am just wondering, why do they let companies spend time, effort and resources in aircraft development if the design will be doomed in the first place?

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:45 PM

First of all, nice sight, John. It's always fun to take a jog through history.

In answer to markuz226, politics again rears its ugly head. The government cannot arbitrarily give contracts to whoever it wants. They have to be "impartial" and accept bids from anyone who wishes to compete. They may have already decided which one they want, but they can't show favoritism toward a specific company or designer. Too many lawsuits.

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coldwar68

Member since
February 2003
From: Zanesville, OH USA

Posted by coldwar68 on Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:17 PM

John, is your site down? I keep getting an error page from Geocities when I click on the link. I have been trying since this morning.

Jerry

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. -Jack Handy

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:48 PM

neat idea! it could use a YB-32 or a YB-35... maybe an XP-55

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coldwar68

Member since
February 2003
From: Zanesville, OH USA

Posted by coldwar68 on Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:01 PM

Very nice John! The site finally worked for me just a few minutes ago.

Jerry

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. -Jack Handy

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John P

Member since
February 2003
From: Joisey

Posted by John P on Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:33 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by coldwar68

John, is your site down? I keep getting an error page from Geocities when I click on the link. I have been trying since this morning.

Jerry

That was just a temporary setup for that page. It's still there, but Geocities sucks. Try my main model site:
http://members.fortunecity.com/jpayne/models.html
The "losers" setup is at the bottom of page three.

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John P

Member since
February 2003
From: Joisey

Posted by John P on Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:34 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by djmodels1999

Very nice collection, John. I like the Scamp best. Very sexy machine, I think. What about the YF-17..?

Is there a 1/72 kit of that puppy? Anyhow, it doesn't really fit with the losers since it eventually became the F-18. :)

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John P

Member since
February 2003
From: Joisey

Posted by John P on Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:37 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by U-96
You must love grey by now

The YF-23 was the first modern jet I've built in a few years. I was getting depressed by all the Ghost Gray. When I had all four of these models in my hands to carry them to the photo table, I looked at them and couldn't tell where one stopped and the other started. Modern subjects sure have gotten boring since the low-viz craze started.

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gregers

Member since
February 2003
From: UK

Posted by gregers on Friday, June 13, 2003 2:49 PM

Hi John, cool site. That F16XL is sweet I converted mine to the two seater using spares from the Matchbox kit. I had a look at the startrek "what if" ships they are brilliant, Nice one....Greg

Why torture yourself when life will do it for you?

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:03 PM

Cool site! I have all those kits except for the JSF. I'll try to get some inspiration from your very nicely done kits and build them. The F-16XL isn't really a loser though as NASA still uses at least one of them and they are very successful at their research roles. Wink [;)]