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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by berny13








Around two years ago, I bought the Italeri 1/48 scale F-14A for my Granddaughter. .







Yeah, way to go Berny..A man after my own heart.
Just this morning I was telling my wife how much our collie has been "hounding" me for the new Hasegawa F-8.
Guess if I'm ever going to get any peace and quiet around here I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and order the dang thing!...Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Texgunner on Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:37 PM
I've had the Monogram F-14A for nearly 15 years, often having "almost" started it several times. Something about it has always intimidated me but it still lurks in my model locker, challenging me to take it on. Oh yeah, I've also got the Revell "Hunt for Red October" F-14. Picked it up at some close-out sale somewhere. Is that the Revell F-14D that someone mentioned? Gary


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:16 AM
I have noticed over the last couple of years that some companies have done marketing deals with regards to using discontinued moulds from other companies ,mainly Airfix using Arii/Otaki and Revell Germany using anything they can get their hands on.
The latest from revell is a 1/48 Aichi Val that looks very Hasegawa to me.
If it is their own ,I am very imperssed .
The existance of the earlier Fujimi kit would explain why the advert I saw mentioned that it was a completely new kit ,which looks very nice considering the price.( I dropped the flaps and gave it AMRAAMS ).
Is Fujimi still in the land of the living,by the way.
I have not heard of any new releases from them in a long time, and I still have 22 F4K/M 's to build from their excellent 72nd scale line.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:11 AM
Thanks, F-14 fan, that helped a lot.
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Posted by berny13 on Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:24 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by oggy4624

In the eatly 90's in Europe ,Italeri released their F14
It was a new release using their own moulds.

i remember the Fujimi Black Bunny released in the 80's and it was not good, but to my knowledge was never sold here by Italeri.


The kit we bought was boxed by Italeri. When we got it home and opened it, on one of the wings, on the inside had "CR Fujimi, 1979". It did not come with the VX-4 markings. I used decals from my collection with the "Black Bunny" markings because that is what she wanted. Being my only Granddaughter, she always knows how to get things out of me. Smile [:)] I have yet to figure out why. Wink [;)]

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:36 AM
In the eatly 90's in Europe ,Italeri released their F14
It was a new release using their own moulds.
It sounds like yours could be a Testors re - box.
The only VX4 That is on current release is the Revell hunk of junkat.
My friend has just completed both using the Italeri kit and the Monogram/Revell
-collection of ill fitting parts masquerading as a tomcat- black bunny decals.
Needless to say the Italeri VX4 kit looks very nice - and the one by Revell may not be finished.I personally I would strip it and bin it.
Some kits just don't diserve to be finished.
Don' t read into this a an anti Revell attitude as I believe the Germans have released some top class kits in the last few years , but they have to stop recycling old junk .
When it comes to kits that are not on release any more like the Matchbox Victor
it is a blessing ,but when you are talking about kits that are on release with every
other manufacturer, it 's a different matter.

i remember the Fujimi Black Bunny released in the 80's and it was not good, but to my knowledge was never sold here by Italeri.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:04 AM
HOU_GE2000:
Here's a great site with a lot of references for the F-14's: http://www.anft.net/f-14/
The direct links for your questions:
Chin Pods: http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-chinpods.htm
Gun Vent: http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-m61.htm
Glove: http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-glovevane.htm
Beaver tail: http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-beavertail.htm

If you do a litlle dig up in the net, i think you can also find a lot!!!!!

Hope this helps...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 8:45 PM


Okay, let me get this straight, since I'm trying to convert a 1/32 tomcat from A to either B or D, I need some info. So here's all I know so far: The D has different seats, the D has different engine exhaust... Okay, the above two can be taken care of by Teknic's aftermarket parts. The D also have double barrel chin pods...any pictures of that? It has have a different gun vent and shape...any pictures of that? It has have glove antennas and sensors and different beaver tail...what does all those mean? Any pics?

How about the B version? Is the B version more closely related to the A (physically to the human eye) than the D?

Any comments will help! Thanks.
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Posted by klem on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 7:49 PM
Hasegawa's 1/72 F-14 has sweet detail inside and out.
Testors made a 1/48 "Black Bunny" that was beautifully detailed on the outside but the inside was truly lacking.
"We the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. We've been doing so much for so long with so little we are now capable of doing anything with nothing." Unknown
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Posted by berny13 on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 2:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uscusn

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Fujimi F-14A. Dont get me started on this kit. It is so bad it would take me a full page to explain it. Stay away from it. The Italeri kit is a rebox of the Fujimi kit. Again, stay away from it.

I am assuming your meaning is on the 48th Fujimi F-14?Blush [:I]




Yes, I am talking about the 1/48 scale. It was one of the first F-14 released and doesn't even look like one when completed. The landing gear is all wrong, the missile don't even look like the real ones. The cockpit is very basic and looks like something out of a crackerjack box. The canopy is too flat and will not even attatch to the aircraft without leaving large gaps.


oggy4624. Around two years ago, I bought the Italeri 1/48 scale F-14A for my Granddaughter. When we got it home I discovered it was a rebox of the Fujimi kit. She was happy with it and we finished it as a VX-4 "Black Bunny". If Italeri has released a newer kit of the F-14 in 1/48 scale since then, in that case I will retract my above statement. If not, I will stand by it.

Happy modeling.

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 1:58 PM
I never get tired of building the 1/48 th Monogram F-14 kits. It's by far one of my favorite kits. I have built the Revel 1/32 F14 also but. will always the enjoy the detail monogram applies to the F-14 cockpit.

Merlin
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 5:59 AM
Hi everyone,

I just stumbled across this topic and had to add my two pennies worth. I'm a big fan of the F-14 and I can honestly say the best I've ever had is the Hasagawa 1/48 kit. It's loaded with great detail. However it is'nt without it's fit problems, (the jet intakes do need a lot of work) I know a few people who started this kit-but never finished it due to the fit problems,but ask anyone who has finished one and I'm sure they'll tell you it is well worth it!Approve [^]
As for the Hasagawa 1/72 kit, there are two versions: the standard one with raised panel lines(nothing special) and the Limited Edition, this is a fantastic little kit!Big Smile [:D] It comes with etched brass and fully recessed panel lines. There are not many around now, so if you see one-get it while you can.

The monagram kits are pretty much the worst I've ever seen, Now I've only had the one, but it was so awful, I would never pay for another.
I've never had the Fujimi kit as so many folks have told me to stay away and as for the Academy kit, I've never had one, but I've been told it goes togeter fairly well.

Which leads me to the Italieri kit. I've built a few of these, there're cheap, fully engraved and go together quite well. Add some decent cockpit details, a decal sheet of your choice and you'll be onto a winner. It is'nt as grand as the Hasagawa kit, but in my opinion it's the best cheap alternative on the market
today.(just be prepared to do some sanding where the front fuselage meets the rest of the airframe). Wink [;)]

Hope my ramblings help some of you out.Smile [:)]

Tally Ho!

Darren.Wink [;)]
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 2:41 AM
The current Italeri F14 kit is NOT the reboxed Fujimi kit.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 2:07 AM
DEMONO69:
Thanks for the help, i'll be appreciated!!!!!

I'm from Lisbon, but i've born in the interior, on the border with Spain, and my hometown has the most beautifull countryside landscape i've ever seen...
Most of the tourist know only Portugal by Lisbon, Madeira and Algarve, but Portugal has a much, much more to be seen!!!!!
I know we all love our hometown and countries, but sometimes, the best things aren't at immediate sight....

Well, this is getting a bit off-topic, so, if you want, contactme directly via e-mail: f14_fan@hotpop.com

GARYFO:
Well, you can be sure i'll post some of the photos, since you all guys at this forum are so helpfull, that the least i can do is to share my anchievment...
But just a correction: The carrier itself it's at 1/720, and i'll just do a section of the landing deck at 1/72, with the CVW aircrafts and crew on it....
I want to do it, but i don't have room to build an full 1/72 Enterprise...
Thanks to all!!!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 1:56 AM
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Fujimi F-14A. Dont get me started on this kit. It is so bad it would take me a full page to explain it. Stay away from it. The Italeri kit is a rebox of the Fujimi kit. Again, stay away from it.

I am assuming your meaning is on the 48th Fujimi F-14?Blush [:I]

Because the 72nd one from Fujimi is excellent and equal if not just a little better than the Hasegawa kit. But I have both in quantity for future builds.
Fly Navy!Cool [8D]
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 10:54 PM
Wow... bringin back memories here!
I built a series of 1/72 Hasegawa F-14s during Desert Storm. Just before the war, the USS Kennedy was in NYC and I got to see the Libyan MiG killer from VF-32. Still got some great shots of it. Anyhow, I built three Hasegawa F-14s. One was FLAWLESS (or as close as a model kit can get). Beautiful engraved panel lines, photoetch in all the right spots. It even came with the right decals for VF-32! Of course, being a nose art fan, when the "Miss Molly" kit came out a few weeks later, I grabbed that one too. BIIIG mistake. It was a previous tooling, had raised panel lines, decals for instruments and the canopy was all sorts of wrong. So, if you're goin 72nd scale, watch which issue you get! If its pre-1991, it may be a bargain, but its gonna be a beast of a kit.

All this jet talk has got me wanting to build something without a rotor now... see what you guys have done!!!!
"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by toadwbg on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 6:01 PM
Well- this is a populer topic is it not? Proof that the F-14 is a popular subject.

some 1/48th scale comments:

Revel/Monogram (Revelogram):

I've built the Revelogram kit about 7 times over 20 years. It's great bang for the buck (I think it was about $7 10 years ago and still a bargain today at about $14). It builds into a very impressive kit but takes a lot of care.

Hasegawa

I just started bulding my first one, a F-14A+ and I am impressed. It is worth the money- it can be found for $30-$40 depending on which version. Hasegawa's offerings give you the most options- chin pods, engines, dropped flaps/slats, boarding ladder, A, A+, B, D models. The detial is better than any other with the exception of the cockpit- which isn't bad but if you're going to display it open you may want to use an aftermakret set. Weapons are extra but you get what you pay for here.
"I love modeling- it keeps me in the cool, dark, and damp basement where I belong" Current Projects: 1/48th Hasegawa F-14D- 25% 1/48th Tamiya Spitfire- 25%
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Posted by berny13 on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 4:24 PM
In 1/48 scale the Monogram F-14A can be built into a very nice model. It is the early production A model and can be converted to a late production with very little scratchbuilding. The only bad thing about the kit is the top and bottom fuselage do not mate up very well. It has the engine exhaust only in the open positions and anyone who has been around the F-14 know that on the ground one will be open and one closed.

Pros. Cheep, not to hard to build. Cons. Aim-7 missiles molded onto the pylon. No drop tanks.

The Revell F-14D can not be built into a D. It does have the correct seats, engine exhaust and double barrel chin pods, but it lacks the proper gun vents and shape. It also does not have the glove antennas and sensors or the correct shape beaver tail.

Pros. Same as above. Cons. Same as above.

Academy F-14A is better than the Monogram kit. It is the later production model and has a choice of compressed or extended nose strut. It has open or closed speed brakes. The weapons pylon gives you a choice of loading AIM-54's, two AIM-7's or two or four AIM-9's, each with their correct launcher. It also includes two droptanks, and a TARPS pod. Also it has all three under chin pods or antennas as used on all A models. Engine exhaust can be displayed open or closed.

Pros. Easy to build. Very detailed cockpit. Cons. Leading edge flaps can not be displayed extended.

Hasagawa F-14A. The best kit of all in 1/48 scale. It has all the features of the Academy kit plus the leading edge flaps can be displayed retracted or extended.

Pros. Gives you a choice of beaver tails so you can make an early or late production F-14A. Cons. Price. Lots of small parts. No weapons included in the kit.

Hasagawa also makes the F-14A+, F-14B, F-14D and the "Bombcat". All of them are excellent kits and well worth the money.

Fujimi F-14A. Dont get me started on this kit. It is so bad it would take me a full page to explain it. Stay away from it. The Italeri kit is a rebox of the Fujimi kit. Again, stay away from it.

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 3:35 PM
Ricardo (and all those interested)

I'll have to dig a bit for the photos, but this link should get you started:

http://navysite.de/cvn/cvn65.html

By the way, what part of Portugal do you live in? I was in Lisbon back in 2000, and I must say that it's beautiful country out there. Great wine, too.

Hope this helps.

demono69
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Posted by garyfo on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 1:59 PM
Wow. Thanks for all the info guys!

The Tom will forever be my favorite Jet fighter...right up until the Navy starts flying X-Wings...than I'll have a decision to make! (Wouldn't a Black Bunny squadron X-Wing look cool? Maybe it's just me...)

F-14 Fan: When you get that carrier built...I know we'd all love to see it...it sounds awesome!
Gary
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 1:27 PM
I got it at the I.P.M.S. Nationals last week for $10.00. It has the photo etch still with it, but it looks a lot like what Hasegawa included in their F/A-18 series...
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Posted by upnorth on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 12:18 PM
I've only built one Tomcat in my life and it was the Revell Monogram kit, I'd say the value is there for the money thats spent (you have to exprect to do a bit of work when the price is in the 20 dollar range or less).

The biggest warning I can give about that kit stems from a series of kits that Monogram released in the mid 1980's. I belive the series was called "High Tech", all the kits were re releases with some of the original plastic parts substituted with some photo etch bits. I built the 1/48 F/A-18 in that series and it was a nightmare! Non of the replaced plastic parts were kept in the kit if you didn't want to go with the photo etched options, you were forced to use them. I don't know what the photo etched bit were made from but you'd need a forge, anvil and some blacksmithing lessons to get them to flex and bend top any degree.

The 1/48 Tomcat was included in that series and I suspect you'd have similar experiences with it. The series didn't last long And I doubt you'd find that particular issueing of the Monogram cat, but just be careful in case it is still on the prowl.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 11:22 AM
As has been said, the Hasegawa kits are the best in 1/48 but the price range they run in is very high. I have several Monogram 14's (2 D's and one A) and I think they are good kits and very affordable ($11.97 at the local Wal-Mart). The fit isn't the best, but I think they are the best run for the money.
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Posted by allan on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 10:10 AM
Put in my vote for Hasegawa. 72nd and 48th. Now that is a Cat! But you have to look for the new mold, though. Hase came out with an earlier release with raised panels, spartan cockpit with geeky looking crew, and no PE. The new mold is a gem. But even then, the shape of the bird is great by my book. Re-scribe a little, upgrade the cockpit, and presto!

Academy's 'Cats have great fuselage and tail sections, and far cheaper. But the nose looks a little short. Guess that bird took the barrier. LOL. They did the same thing in both 72nd and 48th.

Revell Germany came out with a 72nd 'Cat. Recessed panel lines are heavier than Hase. Not very sure about the final appearance, though.

No bucks, no Buck Rogers

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 9:59 AM
DEMONO69:
Well, I WANT EVERYTHING... LITERALLY!!!!!!Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]Cool [8D]

I Explain:
I'm currently building the Big E (CVAN-65) with the first aircraft detachment, and i really need to know wich markings would be appropriate in the deck, since Revell's box comes with a few that i think are a little irreal...Black Eye [B)]
Besides, i've build the hangar, so i need info on it, also (colours, markings, etc.)Sad [:(]
Since i want to build it the more correctly possible, i was thinking of getting as much pics of as i can...Shy [8)]Sleepy [|)]

By the way, i'm also building all the aircraft types that have been aboard the Big E, and i'm getting dificult in found the decals for some of them, mainly the E-2C Hawkeye and the S-3A Viking... Dead [xx(]
I've already got partial markings from some of the squadrons, but are from other carriers...Disapprove [V]
So, i was thinking that some pics could help, if not, to find someone to create custom decals to my aircrafts...Sleepy [|)]

Can you help with the pics???Smile [:)]
Even scanned ones will do!!!!!Approve [^]
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Posted by 72cuda on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 9:54 AM
as for the 1/48's I built the old Monograms & the Hasegawa's I find that both have good points that the other is lacking, but the big thing is the price, also I've seen a few months ago in the mag they had a Cat round up and they went over the pro & cons of all the kits, in 1/72's it'll take some exterior work(rescribing) but the Airfix kit was pretty good too, I think it'll best the Fujimi's hands downEvil [}:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 9:11 AM
Ricardo,

I served aboard the Dwight D Eisenhower, CVN-69. I still have alot of friends on the Enterprise, though. If you can let me know what pics you want (E or Ike,) I'll see what I can do.

demono69
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 8:02 AM
Yeah, I have to agree the Tamiya's F-14 sucks for the price. But if you don't take into account of the price, it's still a good kit. I noticed the rivets on the front fuselage are sunken, but rest of the plane it's convex, why is that?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 6:25 AM
DEMONO69:
In wich aircraft carrier have you been????
I'm searching for pics of the Big E, so i think of question you about the subject....

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