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Otaki 48th Spitfire (Built-up)

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Otaki 48th Spitfire (Built-up)
Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, July 11, 2003 9:01 PM
Okay, just saw the thread on Otaki kits and thought I'd take some shots of another old build of mine. This one was built about 5-6 years ago and was nothing more than a testbed for new techniques, mostly weathering.

Oh, it's the Otaki Spit VIII done up in Aussie markings. It's SOB except for resin wheels/tires (this is one instance where the bulge on True Details' tires isn't too much!) and a bit of detailing in the cockpit. Can't see it too well, though; it's a one-piece canopy. But being a testbed, I thought I'd try some new ideas anyway, mostly stuff like scratchbuilt seatbelts and detailed gunsight.

But I'm rather proud of this thing for the simple reason that there's not one decal on the whole model. It's all paint or colored pencil. This one was alotta fun!

These aren't the best shots, but for a quick 5-minute shoot with dying batteries, whaddya want? Tongue [:P] Enjoy...










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Posted by fuzzy on Saturday, July 12, 2003 12:11 AM
Nice Spitfire. Glad you enjoyed building it.How did
you get the natural metal to show? Also how did you weather
the model? No decals wow !Cool [8D]
fuzzy
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:58 PM
Hi Blackwolf
Nice to see the old Otaki kit built up. You say you didn't use any decals? Great work with that. Why did you paint the camouflage Dark Earth and Dark Green and what colour is the underside?
Cheers
Bob S.
robert.swaddling@sympatico.ca
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Posted by Butz on Saturday, July 12, 2003 9:08 PM
I have to tell ya Steve, that Spit looks sweet man.!! One day I'll try a a/c w/out using the decals. Some day I saidTongue [:P].
You rock man...!!!!!
Flaps up, Mike

  If you would listen to everybody about the inaccuracies, most of the kits on your shelf would not have been built Too Close For Guns, Switching To Finger

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Posted by Butz on Saturday, July 12, 2003 9:44 PM
Hey Steve that reminds me, why dont ya show them your 262?
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Sunday, July 13, 2003 6:04 AM
Very nice Spit, Steve! I built that kit twice in my younger days and loved it. Did it twice in the PR variant. Those Otaki kits were really nice!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:52 PM
Blackwolf...you got glowing props from one dawg one bone. I am building the P-38E Glacier Girl...the one that was recovered from under 258 feet of for 50 years. The problem is...there are no "Glacier Girl" decals. how do i go about getting the nose art into a decal?
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Posted by maddafinga on Sunday, July 13, 2003 3:26 PM
What kind of colored pencils did you use, I have tons of prismas around here and a few other brands as well, it'd be nice to use them for more than drawing. Spit looks great by the way.


madda
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Monday, July 14, 2003 3:51 AM
Thanks fellas...

Lemmee try and answer some of your questions, not necessarily in order.

The bare metal effect is Monogram/Humbrol's Polished Steel brushed on and slightly buffed. Unfortunately, this stuff is long gone... But I've heard that Humbrol still carries the same paint.

The pencils I used were, indeed, Prismacolors. I only used them on the serial number and the command pennant under the windscreen. And I love using 'em for drawing, as well!

Um... oh, decals for Glacier Girl. When I've made decals in the past, I've simply drawn the image out on solid film decal paper, painted it (sprayed and/or brushed) and sealed it with Micro Superfilm. Gotta be careful with the Superfilm, it'll dissolve most paints and inks if you work it too much.

As to the markings on this one, they were all painted directly onto the model using masks (roundels, fin flashes & code letters) or simply done freehand (playing cards & sharkmouth). The national markings were sprayed and the code letters were stippled lightly through the mask then finished off by hand.

The weathering, I really can't give a solid answer there. As I said, I built this as a testbed and tried a number of things on it, and continue to do so today. But here's what I recall: For the faded look on the paint I sprayed straight white over the colors to lighten them to varying degrees. Pastels were used throughout, as well as a bit of washing with watercolors.

This is a good case of knowing your subject; I'd be less likely to give this same treatment to an aircraft from the ETO. The effects of the weather on aircraft in Europe would be different than in the Pacific simply because of the differing weather conditions.

The aircraft serving in the PTO, especially in the southern Pacific, were subject to extreme weathering and I tried to represent this. Paint was very badly faded and dust, dirt and sand got everywhere. Also, the Aussies weren't known for keeping clean aircraft, so I really went to town on this bird.

And finally, the color scheme. This is, I realize, a matter of some debate in certain circles; information on Aussie Spitfires is not as plentiful as other subjects.

I like to add a bit of the unusual into my modeling, and when I saw a profile of this bird I had to do it. I'm not one for placing much faith in artists' renderings for the purpose of reference, but this was an exception. And although I did a bit of research before I actually painted this thing, I ultimately fell back on the profile as my main reference because of the little concrete info that I had at the time. In this case, it really didn't matter if it was totally accurate or not. I've long given up my quest for total accuracy, fewer models get built that way!

But, gladly, subsequent research seems to have justified my decision to use the Foliage Green/Earth Brown scheme. Many of the earlier VIII's delivered to the RAAF carried the RAF 'desert' scheme of Dark Earth & Middle Stone over Azure Blue. The Middle Stone was usually overpainted with Foliage Green upon delivery and the Dark Earth left alone.

As to the color of the undersurfaces, I used a slightly lightened Azure Blue. My reasoning at the time was that the Aussies, already showing a distinct lack of color continuity/uniformity,
would have most likely left the Azure Blue because although it wasn't the RAAF Sky Blue, it was still blue, similar to the Dark Earth/Earth Brown issue. As long as it was in the ballpark... This, at the time, was pure speculation on my part; call it an educated guess. But, again, subsequent research has given a bit of further credence to this idea.

Anyhoo... there is now some doubt, however, whether the aircraft carried the sharkmouth! I have conflicting info here as well, but without actual photos there's no way of knowing this for sure. I'd like to find out though as I wanna build this aircraft again with a Hasegawa kit.

By the way, the subject is an LF VIII flown by Wing Cdr Robert Gibbes during the summer of 1944. This aircraft was written off in an accident in December of that year, but I have conflicting info as to who was at the controls.

Gibbes was burned in an accident in December '44 and this would seem to jive, but some sources state that the aircraft was wrecked by a new pilot. I know that pilots, whether they had a personal aircraft or not, often times would use whatever ship was available when needed. But I find it hard to believe that a Wing Commander's ship would be entrusted to a newb. One never knows, however...


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 14, 2003 7:04 AM
luverly job ,, wolfie old boy , just one question....did you pre-shade?
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Monday, July 14, 2003 7:22 AM
Nope, Deak. No pre-shading here, that's something that I've only just begun trying. What you see is pretty much all pastels. I think I used some pencil in the lines as well, can't remember too well, though...


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Posted by maddafinga on Monday, July 14, 2003 8:06 AM
Hey blackwolf, if you have any finished drawings scanned, mail me one or two, I'd like to see your pencil work. I'll send you a couple of mine in return. I don't much toot my own horn, but I'm pretty good :) I'm way better at drawing than I am at building models anyway.

madda
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 14, 2003 10:09 AM
Have you seen Victory Productions' new Spitfire sheet? It has 41 Spitfires featured, all 1/48th scale and all well researched. Gibbe's A58-602 is represented. I have a wartime colour photo of his later Mk VIII and it is in Dark Green/Ocean Grey/Medium Sea Grey with the Grey Nurse Shark's Mouth. The one you did was indeed a desert camouflage with the Middlestone overpainted with Foliage Green. The undersides were left in Azure Blue
For reference have a look at the RAAF Spitfire website at < http://spitfirecmraaf.tripod.com/index.html> Lots of information there for you.
Cheers
Bob S.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Monday, July 14, 2003 6:25 PM
Madda,

Wilco on the drawings. I haven't any scanned but I did take some quicky photos some time back. I'll try and scan some though...

Bob,

Thanks for the link, got it already! Matter of fact, that site was part of my "subsequent research"! LOL Small world...

And I haven't seen the VP decal sheet in the flesh, but have heard of it and I think I saw a scan on the web somewhere. That's one that I'll have to get, I'm as big a decal nut as I am a book/photo nut!

Thanks fellas!


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