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Monogram Cessna 180 on floats FINISHED

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Monogram Cessna 180 on floats FINISHED
Posted by gbritnell on Thursday, November 17, 2005 6:46 PM

I picked up several old Monogram civil aircraft models quite awhile back. I finally got around to starting on the Cessna. I remember building it when I was a kid (long time ago) so I thought I would try to do it with some of the materials (Alclad) and things I have learned since then. I started by filling the huge hinge slots for the doors on the side of the fuselage and removing the matching pieces from the doors. I was going to leave the pilots door open but it's so hard to see inside that I closed it up. I removed the water rudders form the floats and built my own from pictures that I got from references on the net. I assembled the fuselage and floats and removed all of the seams.(quite a task in itself) I forgot how crude these early models were. The worst part about filling and seam removal is the raised rivet detail that gets removed. I have painted it with Alclad shiny aluminum and plan on cutting the painted areas from colored decal paper after making templates for them. I don't want to try and mask the Alclad and then find I have a problem after I remove the tape. The pictures show where I am to this point.

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Posted by lerxst1031 on Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:28 PM
Oh yeah! It's about time somebody posts some GA. Especially a floatplane. Looking good so far, be sure to keep us updated.

It'll be quite a few months before I see one of these fly over; everyone's changed over to skis for the winter...
Fred
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Posted by Jabbe on Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:37 PM

That's a really sharp looking model. That Alclad really shines, and looks quite convincing!

Joshua

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:07 PM

I agree with Fred - good to see some small and civil. Love it so far, she certainly is a looker!Big Smile [:D]

Keep us posted!

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Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:11 PM
Nice build, makes that old kit look great, wish they would re-release it
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Posted by wooverstone8 on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:10 PM

The aluminum finish looks really good. Keep us updated

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Posted by leemitcheltree on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:21 PM
Hey!!
Good one!  That 180 looks great - there are simply not enough pics of GA aircraft posted on this forum.  There are some great planes out there, and relatively few models made of them.
Nice job so far - keep us posted as you get along with the build.

Cheers, LeeTree
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Posted by berny13 on Friday, November 18, 2005 6:43 AM
Take the floats off, put wheels back on it and I can fly that baby.  Or at least I could before the FAA grounded me.  Great looking model.  What will the final colors be?  It has to have the Cessna stripe on it.Smile [:)]

Berny

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, November 18, 2005 10:31 AM

see some small and civil.

Sheesh, just civil/GA at all.  Be nice if somebody would only get the 1/36 moulds from ARII and rerun there Cessnas & Piper's in that line.  Reshots from those mould can't be that much worse than the stray kits that were on eBay till that source dried up.

Even at 1/36, the kits have a very nice elegance, and are not very large at all, for being "large scale."

I've often wondered why the Skymaster & Birdog were not kitted-up in 1/48 or 1/32; both would be good "youth" sizes, and both have civilian & military applications.

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Posted by rangerj on Friday, November 18, 2005 4:42 PM

If I remember correctly that kit goes back to the 1960s. She looks great. Very nice finish. Are you going to put stripes on her?

Ah, capn, the Bird Dog and the Sky Master have both been kitted in 1/48th scale. Testors boxes the old Hawk Sky Master, and the L-19 was recently released (a couple years ago) by (I had the name on the tip of my tonge)!! Shoot, nobody tell the FAA about this or they might ground me too.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, November 18, 2005 4:59 PM

Ok, now that you mention it, I do now remember the Testors kits.  Duh.

I'd still like some large-scale though <G>.

Hmm, I'm now thinking that ther was a vac 1/32 Cessna 150, but that may have been a short run (or short-lived) operation. 

Oh well, I'll still keep my eyes open, in case I ever actually get started on my "stick time" collection (which would make for a motley, but not boring shelf of birds <g>).

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, November 18, 2005 11:20 PM
Dang that's nice and shiny.  Looks great so far.

Marc  

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:13 AM

Looking great so far.  Nice job with the Alclad NMF.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by flippersdad on Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:00 PM

Looking really nice thus far. I sure would like to take a spin or two in one of those - not to many places here in Kansas to take off and land on water! I really like the finish you got, looking forward to seeing it completed.

Cheers,

Eric

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Posted by roadkill_275 on Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:53 PM
Looks good. It's good to see some GA AC appearing here. As soon as I get the pics developed I'll add my Beech Bonanza here and we'll have our own "fly in" of sorts.
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Posted by kielers on Sunday, November 20, 2005 1:03 AM
It's unusual to see these civilian planes but a welcome change.  Keep us posted on your progress. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 20, 2005 9:40 PM

Whe can we see some more pics? How's the build going?

capnMac - the 1:48 Bird Dog was done by Hasegawa. I'm looking at my build of it right now. The oly Bird Dog I've seen in a shop for ages.

BTW, has anyone got the Airfix 1:72 Bird Dog? I want it!

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:13 PM

Model USA did the 1/48 L-19/O-1 in 1/48.  By my measure the 180 is 1/41 scale, but never has looked quite right to my eye.  Mostly the cowl shape seems a bit off, not spherical enough on the bottom.  One of my favorites is the Monogram TriPacer, but I prefer to reverse the main gear and leave off the nose wheel, which makes it a Pacer.  Much better flying airplane.  Bandai did the 150 in 1/48.  But I say nothing negative about the nmf finish on the beginning of this thread,great job!   Bare metal was common on the 180/185 series in the early years, into the late seventies.  I have quite a few factory brochures from that era. 

A 170B could probably be done from the Monogram 180 landplane kit without severe heartburn.

 

  

John

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Posted by lerxst1031 on Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:59 PM
 jeaton01 wrote:

Bare metal was common on the 180/185 series in the early years, into the late seventies.

 

Take a ride around any airport here and you'll see a lot of bare metal too.  The bush pilots say if they strip the paint it saves them 80+ lbs...  I have a beaver I'd like to finish in bare metal if I ever get to it!

Fred
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Posted by Keyworth on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:21 PM
Great job on the Cessna.  Just don't see many civil aircraft built these days.  It's a classic, along with the old Piper Tri-Pacer kit the Monogram also produced.  Looking forward to seeing this one completed.
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Posted by bablenw on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:26 AM

Beautiful paint job. Did you lay a gloss black base coat or is that painting straight on the plastic. I haven't seen many civil aircraft models, nice to see them.

Thank you for sharing

Neil

 

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Posted by gbritnell on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:45 PM

Thanks for the comments. Neil, yes I layed down a gloss black undercoat before applying the Alclad. I then put a coat of Future over the Alclad to protect it. It doesn't like much handling without an overcoat. Here's an update. I have masked and painted the yellow and the black on the cowl and rudder. I have some colored decal sheets from Micro Scale so I cut the .040 stripe from white and layed it over the yellow. I also put the registration decals on from the kit. For their age they went on quite well. I'm just waiting for some black decal film to finish the black striping on the side and floats. I'm more or less following the box art. Here's the latest pics.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:03 PM
 jeaton01 wrote:

Model USA did the 1/48 L-19/O-1 in 1/48.  By my measure the 180 is 1/41 scale, but never has looked quite right to my eye.  Mostly the cowl shape seems a bit off, not spherical enough on the bottom.  One of my favorites is the Monogram TriPacer, but I prefer to reverse the main gear and leave off the nose wheel, which makes it a Pacer.  Much better flying airplane.  Bandai did the 150 in 1/48.  But I say nothing negative about the nmf finish on the beginning of this thread,great job!   Bare metal was common on the 180/185 series in the early years, into the late seventies.  I have quite a few factory brochures from that era. 

A 170B could probably be done from the Monogram 180 landplane kit without severe heartburn.

About that Bandai kit.Was that the one with 2 figurines in the box? As far as I can remember, there was 1 figure of a mechanic and 1 of a lady.
Must have been late 70s as far as I can recal. I know I've build it, but cannot recollect what happened with that bird afterwards Confused [%-)].

Luc

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 4, 2005 10:46 PM

Looking great!  There's a few classic C-180's up here in Alaska but many have the enlarged tail filet and extra rear cabin windows (sometimes hard to tell them from C-185s).  I was lucky enough to pick up a couple of the Monogram C-180 kits and plan on making a C-185 on floats and one on Wheel-skis.  They'll both have the STOL fences and wingtips, and I'll be scratch building the tail filet and extra windows, along with making my own decals.  One will be an Alaska State Trooper (F&W aircraft) and the other will be an Alaska Wing CAP aircraft.

My other project is making a C-195 (LC-126) on floats from the 10th Rescue Squadron (Alaska)using parts from an L-19/O-1E, C-180, DHC-2 and various others and a BUNCH of scratchbuilding.

jeaton01,

You Could make a C-170B from a C-180 but you'd have to take the tail from an L-19.  I've got about 50 hours in a C-170B...great airplane!  Lot's of them up here too.

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Posted by skybolt2003 on Monday, December 5, 2005 1:15 PM
<My other project is making a C-195 (LC-126) on floats from <the 10th Rescue Squadron (Alaska)using parts from an L-19/<O-1E, C-180, DHC-2 and various others and a BUNCH of <scratchbuilding.
I am the proud owner of a 1953 C-195. There is very little commonality of parts among those models - the tail is similar to the L-19 but the elevators are different. The wing is completely different than any other Cessna – the planform is unique, it has no diherdral and split flaps. It's a great plane and a lot of fun to fly. Nothing beats the sound of a round motor. Definitely a head turner at the airport, and amazing how many supposed plane experts have NO idea what it is. I had some guy instisting it was the same plane Harrison Ford flew is "6 Days 7 Nights" or whatever that lousy film ws called. If you need any photo reference for your project, let me know. Also check out: http://www.cessna195.org – the website of the International 195 Club.
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Posted by gbritnell on Monday, December 5, 2005 5:47 PM

Well I think it's finished. I painted the yellow by masking. I then painted the cowl and insert on the tail black. The remainder of the striping was done with Micro Scale decal film. I cut strips from white and added them to the yellow on the fuselage. I cut the Cessna logos and applied them to the tail. The black striping was next. I made templates from paper and reinforced them with masking tape. After applying all of the decals I noticed that the yellow on the tail should angle up. The yellow decal film from Micro Scale matched the Testors yellow almost perfectly so I cut pieces and layed them over the top of the painted area. The match is dead on. After all the decaling was finished I overcoated everything with Future. I then added all the support rigging and the control lines for the water rudders. All in all it makes an old Monogram kit look pretty good.

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Posted by duckman on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 1:28 AM

oh wow shes beautiful! exellent work i love seeing the average non-military aircraft every once in a while!

hope to see more from you soon! 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 5:45 AM

Thats 1 sharp little plane you got there.  I like it alot thx for the pics.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 5:37 PM

skybolt2003,

Yeah, I didn't say it was going to be easy.Smile [:)]  I know of only two C-195s up here in Alaska.  One's been parked up on the East end of Merrill Field for quite some time.  The cowling was removed and the engine was covered in plastic wrap.  You are definately a LUCKY man.  Personnaly, I'm lucky enough to be a mission pilot for the Alaska Wing CAP.  We've got 8 DHC-2 Beavers (among other aircraft) that I get to play with on occasion.  As I'm sure you're aware, there's nothin like priming up that big round motor and the smell when that cloud of blue smoke bellows up when she turns over.

Round motors are greatest!!! 

 

Thanks for the website info and I may take you up on your offer. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 6:22 PM
sharp lookin cessna
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