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Col. Tomb's MiG-17

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:15 AM
I suppose a softer edge would be better, but I am still working on the skills to free-hand a paint job. Someday...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:26 PM
wow! that paint job is outta control! nice one! Thanks for posting all the pics! Nothing is a better learning tool than sample photos!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:24 PM
Perhaps it's time for me to step in here and admit that there was in fact a Col. Tomb. I know this because ... it was me.

Nice looking bird. I'm surprised that it looks so much like the Chinese MIG-15 I painted up using Tamiya's kit and decals. Question: were the worms on the pattern really that hard edged? I airbrished mine on because they appeared to be fuzzy worms, at least on some birds used by the Chinese "volunteers" in the Korean War.
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Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:02 AM
Hyperscale has a great article written by Cookie Sewell: "Cunningham's Fifth Victim."

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/cunnighamsfifthvictimcs_1.htm

Duathlete1, that's a great looking Mig!

Regards,

-Drew

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Posted by JGUIGNARD on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 5:51 PM
There is a Mig-17 at the San Diego Aerospace Museum in a similar color scheme. Historically correct or not, I have been considering doing one like that too as it does look good like that. In the same display area there is also on F4, and I think it may be carrying Randy Cunningham's markings.

Jim
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:22 PM
Thanks for the compliments! It was a fun build, but I put off the paint job for a few weeks before I got the nerve to start it. I am pretty happy with it, though.
I, too, have read that the Col. was indeed war propaganda, but it was still a cool subject to build. I guess it is history either way.
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Posted by allan on Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:25 PM
Hey, great Mig! Thats some fancy paintwork. Nice job!

But the photo with the silly putty made by hair stand on end. Was it just me or does it look like worms enveloping the model? Ewww!! Sorry about that.

By the way , Jim maybe right. I heard/read somewhere that Col. Tomb was actually a ruse created by the North to make it appear that they had an ace, and that the handle was in fact used by several pilots to carry on the propaganda.
I could wrong though.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:54 AM
Gomer goggles! I forgot all about that, darn. I think he is now a California Congessman or something. I know he's in politics now, so I think he has become a bit PCSad [:(]. We talked mostly about what it's like flying combat aircraft in general, I didn't want to pry too much. We also talked about his current civilian flying in puddle jumpers. Thats gotta take some adjusting too.

As for the Col. Tomb thing jim. Now that you mention it, that does seem to ring a few bells amongst the old cob webs here.

Darren
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:34 AM
Very nice model. If you ever had any doubts when you were doing all the silly putty work they were unnecessary, it paid off!

An idea...Maybe the museum A/C has the bare metal painted red as a means of prservation.
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Posted by JGUIGNARD on Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by darrenbb

. Documents years later were found to show that it was not Col. Tombs aircraft. None the less, the misidentified pilot was of great skill and presented them their most challenging dogfight of the war.


I recall reading that not only was that Mig-17 not flown by Col. Tomb, but that Col. Tomb never existed at all.

Jim
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, July 26, 2003 2:12 AM
Did Duke use his patented phrase "Gomer Goggles" in that conversation? lol Tongue [:P]


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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:25 AM
When I first read this thread I thought of mentioning this, but I felt bad enough about picking on the red struts. BTW...the model is outstanding, I forgot to state that first off in my previous post, sorry.

Anyhow, On May 10, 1972 Randy "Duke" Cunningham and Willie "Irish" Driscoll were credited with 3 kills that day before being shot down. One of those mistakenly reported as Col. Tombs by the media. Documents years later were found to show that it was not Col. Tombs aircraft. None the less, the misidentified pilot was of great skill and presented them their most challenging dogfight of the war.

I was lucky enough to literally bump in to Mr. Cunningham last year in Manassas, VA. while at work at the airport. He had landed there and the aircraft was parked at our FBO. He was gracious enough to answer some of my questions. We had a very nice conversation, he's an extremely nice person. I have yet to meet a pilot that doesn't like to tell old war stories.

Darren
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Posted by maddafinga on Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:44 AM
Is this the guy that was shot down by Duke Cunningham and his rio, Willy Driscoll? It seems like I remember that being a Col. Tomb. He couldn't cope with the rolling scissors if I remember right. Few can actually, rolling scissors is hard.

madda
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 5:08 PM
I did a partial a/c with silly putty before... but that just looks... odd.... "My airplane's under attack by giant worms!" or something. :0

Came out really ncie, though.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 3:23 PM
The SMER kit wasn't really that bad - the only fit problem I had was getting the fuselage halves to come together with the cockpit tub in place. This seems to be the case with a lot of models, though. A little trimming did the trick.
As for the paint job - I did the dark green first, masked with silly putty, and shot the lighter color. Work fast with silly putty, though - it tends to run a little!
Here's the putty pic...

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, July 25, 2003 2:46 PM
Hey Drew,

Why not post that photo of the MiG all decked out in silly putty, it may prove interesting to allotta these guys!


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 2:23 PM
Excellent work! One question- How did you mask for the camo scheme?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 2:12 PM
I agree with berny13. It does appear that those are mechanical lockouts to prevent retraction of the gear and speedbrakes (pictured on ARC). They should be chrome silver.

Darren
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, July 25, 2003 2:06 PM
You actually built the SMER/OEZ kit? Geez, brave soul...

Snazzy paint job too. How was it as regards fit and all that kinda stuff?


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Posted by mostlyjets on Friday, July 25, 2003 1:41 PM
Very nice! I like the paint job.
All out of Snakes and Nape, switching to guns...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 1:36 PM
I got the same thing, Berny - go to www.Aircraftresourcecenter.com and go on a walkaround of the jets. The MiG-17F walkaround has some good pics of this plane. Thanks for your input.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 1:34 PM
Thanks, Rich. Here are a few more...







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Posted by berny13 on Friday, July 25, 2003 1:30 PM
I can't get the link. When I click on it I get the message, "Page cannot be found".

Berny

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 1:25 PM
Drew, looks great. Post more photos. One picture is just a tease!!

Rich
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Posted by berny13 on Friday, July 25, 2003 11:56 AM
If it had a down lock safety strut installed, then yes it would be red. I think in this case with the model, it doesn't have the safety strut so it should have been silver.

Berny

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On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 11:43 AM
Oddly enough, I used some pics from a walkaround on the web (link below) that showed them as being red. I thought it was a little strange, but I just painted it as I saw it. Could there be a reason that it is red in the museum but should actually be bare metal?

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk013_Mig17/images%20Jeff%
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Posted by berny13 on Friday, July 25, 2003 11:25 AM
Very good. One question though. Shouldn't the gear actuators be silver, not red?

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Col. Tomb's MiG-17
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 10:15 AM
I just finished this one yesterday and boy was it a project. It is a 1/48 SMER. The directions are a little sketchy, but manageable. The paint job was tough - silly putty is a god send! The decals for this particular plane are not available, so I had to make them myself. The 3020 was actually stenciled on - I cut the stencil and air brushed them on. I really like the effect. Other than that, the ac was built from the box. Let me know what you think!

Drew

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