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B-26B-45
Posted by mandrake on Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:00 PM
Hi fellas!, i just bought the Revell B-26 B/G Marauder in 1/48Cool [8D]. But i am a little much confused, what is the difference betwen the "B" and the "G" model?Approve [^] i have been looking on several web sites that i use as a reference but i havent been able to find nothing Sad [:(] both models look the same for me and in the instruction sheet says nothing....Question [?]

On the other hand i found that the colors used are a mix of three diferent tones, like for example the over all color is 75% of bronze green matt plus 5% of yellow mat plus 20% of rust matt,Disapprove [V] and the cammo pattern is 75% of bronze green matt plus 15% of yellow matt plus 10% of white matt Dead [xx(] what color would that be??? is there an easier way to paint this aircraft???Angry [:(!]

Please if you have any suggestion or any reference about the diferences betwen the "G" and the "B" let me now....

Thanks for helping me! Smile [:)]
My very best regards
Hector Reymundo
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Posted by wayne baker on Monday, July 28, 2003 8:09 AM
Sounds like dark olive drab 41 overall with the camo light olivedrab. The bottom would be neutral gray. There is a thread in general discussion on what is olive drab.

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Posted by mandrake on Monday, July 28, 2003 9:40 PM

thank you Wayne Baker, but the other question is still there, what are the differences between the "B" and the "G" model? both looks the same for me, i need more information so please, give me a hand on this one Sad [:(]

Thanks! My Best Regards Hector Reymundo
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Posted by Keyworth on Monday, July 28, 2003 10:48 PM
Here's some clarification for you, courtesy of Joe Baugher's US Military Aircraft Website:
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/

The B-26B was the version of the Marauder that was built in the greatest quantity. It first appeared in May of 1942.

The B-26B differed from earlier Marauder versions in having two 0.50-inch machine guns with 1500 rpg installed in a stepped- down tail position, replacing the single hand-held gun of the earlier B-26 and B-26A. The guns were operated manually by the gunner by means of a ring and bead sight. The gunner had no seat, and usually knelt to track his targets and fire his weapons. Ammunition was fed from cartridge belts held upright on a pair of roller tracks in the aft bomb bay. Each gun was equipped with 800 rounds. The new tail position increased the overall length to 58 feet 3 inches.

The B version introduced self-sealing fuel lines and a rearrangement of various internal equipment items. The engines were switched back to R-2800-5s. The large propeller spinners were deleted. The oil cooler air scoop under the engine cowling was enlarged. Torpedo racks underneath the fuselage were fitted as factory-installed equipment. Fuel supply included two 350-gallon main fuel tanks in the wings, two 121-gallon auxiliary tanks, and up to four 250-gallon bomb bay ferry tanks, for a total capacity of 1962 gallons. Normal bomb load consisted of two 2000 lb or 1600 lb bombs, eight 500-pound, sixteen 250 lb, or thirty 100-lb bombs. Maximum short-range bombload was 5200 pounds, which was seldom carried. This could be two 1600-lb bombs plus a 2000-pound torpedo on the external rack.

The final production version of the Marauder was the B-26G. It was externally similar to the B-26F, but had universal Army-Navy equipment rather than specifically Air Corps-type equipment. A larger life raft compartment was installed in the top section of the forward fuselage. Provision was made for mechanical emergency extension of the nosewheel.

Both the B-26F and G were sometimes fitted with a tail bumper fairing underneath the aft turret.

150 B-26Gs were supplied to the RAF under Lend-Lease. RAF serials were HD602 to HD751. Like the B-26Fs, these were also known as Marauder IIIs

The last B-26G was delivered by Martin-Baltimore on April 18, 1945, bringing Marauder production to an end.

Hope this helps. - Ed



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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 11:17 PM
I have drawings if you want them. contact me through the email button below.
I posted this in case you don't get the email I sent.
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Posted by mandrake on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:24 PM
Thank you all, then the revell B-26 B/G seems more like a B instead of a G, i got the idea, thanks for your helping me!
Thanks! My Best Regards Hector Reymundo
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B-26B-45-MA Marauder
Posted by mandrake on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 9:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wayne baker

Sounds like dark olive drab 41 overall with the camo light olivedrab. The bottom would be neutral gray. There is a thread in general discussion on what is olive drab.


Hey Wayne B. i forgot to ask you which colors would you use, i dont want to mix 3 tones to make one, so what do you suggest me, from this chart which colors would you use?? thanks for helping me man!
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Posted by fuzzy on Friday, August 8, 2003 1:18 AM
Hector,
Just picked up a B-26 too. Sure would be nice
if Revell would at least have the FS numbers on the painting
instructions. Anyway here's what I've come up with . The FS
number is on the left and the Gunze number on the right.
Cross reference is from the Model Master Technical Guide.
Dark Olive Drab #41 H304
Neutral Gray #43 H306
Medium Green #42 FS 34079 H309
Dark olive drab over neutral gray with medium green
splotches or patches.
fuzzy
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Posted by fuzzy on Monday, August 11, 2003 1:59 AM
Hector,
Found another source that had Dark Green
listed for the splotches. This is the same color as Medium
Green #42 FS 34079. Some AAF Technical Orders called
it Dark Green also.
fuzzy
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Posted by mandrake on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:14 PM
Thank you Fuzzy, so until 1942 the right tone would be H302? and for the interior, would you use the standard cromate zinc green?? thank you for your help and sorry for the delay of my answer, i have been working a lot!
Thanks! My Best Regards Hector Reymundo
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Posted by fuzzy on Saturday, August 23, 2003 4:09 PM
Hector,
No problem I understand I've been busy too.
Since the references I used for the B-26 colors differed in
thier color recommendations I did some more digging.
Here's what I found. The 8 April 1941 TO authorizes Medium
Green #42 to be applied over Dark Olive Drab #41 . To be
applied to leading and trailing edges of wings,stabilizers and
rudder. The size of the splotches was 0 to 20% of the width
of the wing,stabilizer or rudder. Check photographs when
possible some aircraft had splotches all over, for example
the Memphis Belle.
1940 - April 1943
Dark Olive Drab #41, Neutral Gray #43, Medium Green #42 ANA 612 FS34079 ( Dark Green)H309
In April 1941 Medium Green patches or splotches
were optional for aircraft operating over predominately
green terrain.
The colors above were replaced in 1943 by:
ANA 613 Olive Drab FS 34087
ANA 603 Sea Grey FS 36118
ANA 612 Medium Green FS 34079 (optional)
Wayne Baker was right about the Olive Drab #41.
Not sure about this color . There were no FS numbers for
#41or # 43. They were a little darker than the colors that replaced them. Not sure about Gunze paint so check these
colors H304, H306,H309. There were three different interior color schemes during the war . I'm not sure which is right without good photographs.
fuzzy
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 25, 2003 3:02 AM
I suggest going to this web site for any info on the carients.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/bombers/b3-19.htm

It works for me.
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Posted by fuzzy on Monday, August 25, 2003 3:51 AM
Hector,
Here's what I found for the interior colors from September
1942 till April 1945.
Cockpits that have a sliding canopy(or open)- Yellow Green

Cockpits that are part of the air frame( top and sides)seats etc.- Dull Dark Green . Cockpit ceiling above the windows is
aluminum. Black inst. panel .
Bombardiers compartment , bomb bay and rest of aircraft
interior is yellow green.
Yellow Green would probably be Green Zinc Cromate . That's what I plan on using on mine. Made changes to the exterior colors based on new FS information. Seems the AAF
was changing specifications a lot .Sad [:(]
Fuzzy



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Posted by mandrake on Friday, August 29, 2003 9:13 PM

Thank you a lot man! as soon as my plane is done i will post the pics, thank you very very much and once more sorry for the delay, i have been flying all over like a mosquito! Sad [:(]

Thanks! My Best Regards Hector Reymundo
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Posted by mandrake on Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:14 PM
Hey i have another question, i promise this is gonna be the last one, a friend of mine told me that the marauders wore a factory finish cammo and that after too much fighting the paint would peel off leaving a bare metal surface, is this true? didnt they wore a prymer?? and one more thing, on the internet i saw a little placcard that says "WARNING DO NOT EXTEND TRAILING ANTENNA WHEN 20MM CANNON ARE INSTALLED" but what is the meaning of this??? what antenna? what cannon? any help? please??
Thanks this is the last one, i promisse Smile [:)]

Thanks! My Best Regards Hector Reymundo
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:31 PM
Hi Hector,
Some WW2 aircraft had a long antenna wire that could be reeled out to increase transmission/reception. It was on a spool inside the AC and reeled out when necessary. I am not sure what cannon they are referring to but i assume the antenna could get caught in the gun barrels.
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Posted by fuzzy on Sunday, August 31, 2003 12:19 AM
Hector,
Zinc chromate primer was used on aircraft without
another type protective coating . If the aircraft had another
protective coat of enamel or lacquer already applied then a
compatable paint could be applied over it.
Paint chipping was anticipated by the AAF on
the leading edges of wings ,stabilizers etc. . Chipping was ok
and did not have to be touched up unless it compromised
the aircrafts ability to be camoflaged. Touchup was authorized
if needed.Some aircraft were natural metal and several of them
had Medium Green only on the upper surfaces.
Don't know about a cannon, thought they had .50
cal. .
fuzzy
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