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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:25 AM

Hi, All,

I recently dismantled my prototype bomb clip and rebuilt it. I corrected the shape of the panels and simplified them so they are easier to build, plus I left off the I-beam edging around the outside edges and the slot as it was out of scale anyway. I also added the chafing curtain between the right and center panels which I left off in the prototype.

In the original build, I had problems keeping the bombs straight when attaching them. I solved this by adding a 1 mm strip of plastic as a "shackle" (see pictures). This also enabled me to mount the bombs so the fins are oriented correctly.

 

NOTE: For further updates on these bomb clips and transporters, please see my diorama thread at:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/19/t/149616.aspx

My sincere thanks to you, Andrew Magoo, for allowing me to use your thread so shamelessly Big Smile. I wish you all the best!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:53 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Russ,

That is the trouble with trying to find the right photograph to show what you need.  At least you did find it, good work!  Now that you found it, it does make since that it would follow the shape of the fuselage.

Ken

 
Thanks, Ken. Actually, the tapering is front to back, not side to side. Can't see what advantage that gave them unless it just saved on material costs or maybe weight. It could also be that the bomb lift trailer could only accomodate the size used for the cradle, so the clip panels had to be tapered to fit on the cradle.
 
Russ

I see that now that you point it out.  I agree that does seem odd and would not be something you would expect.

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:34 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Russ,

That is the trouble with trying to find the right photograph to show what you need.  At least you did find it, good work!  Now that you found it, it does make since that it would follow the shape of the fuselage.

Ken

 
Thanks, Ken. Actually, the tapering is front to back, not side to side. Can't see what advantage that gave them unless it just saved on material costs or maybe weight. It could also be that the bomb lift trailer could only accomodate the size used for the cradle, so the clip panels had to be tapered to fit on the cradle.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:02 PM

Striker8241

Hello, All,

I discovered that my design of the bomb clip panels was slightly off. The panels actually taper toward the bottom. This was easy to miss since the pictures I had to work with were mostly at an angle and the tapering was hard to see. The picture below (65675034400_002208_3.jpg from the Critical Past site (http://www.criticalpast.com/)) clearly shows the tapering of the panels. I will correct the dimensions in the next version of the assembly manual.

Cheers,

Russ

 

Hi Russ,

That is the trouble with trying to find the right photograph to show what you need.  At least you did find it, good work!  Now that you found it, it does make since that it would follow the shape of the fuselage.

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:41 PM

Hello, All,

I discovered that my design of the bomb clip panels was slightly off. The front and back of the panels are slightly tapered toward the bottom. This was easy to miss since the pictures I had to work with were mostly at an angle and the tapering was hard to see. The picture below (65675034400_002208_3.jpg from the Critical Past site (http://www.criticalpast.com/)) clearly shows the tapering of the panels. I will correct the dimensions in the next version of the assembly manual.

Cheers,

Russ

  

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:55 PM

yardbird78

Last summer I visited the SAC museum in Nebraska and took a bunch of pictures of the B model B-52 on display there.  This web address has most of those pictures of the landing gear, LG bays and bomb bay.  The B model is structurally mostly the same as the C,D, E & F models.  One major difference is this B model has the twin 20mm tail turret from the B-36.

Darwin

www.britmodeller.com/.../index.php

Many thanks for the link, Darwin. Those photos are excellent!

Russ

 

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Posted by yardbird78 on Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:34 PM

Last summer I visited the SAC museum in Nebraska and took a bunch of pictures of the B model B-52 on display there.  This web address has most of those pictures of the landing gear, LG bays and bomb bay.  The B model is structurally mostly the same as the C,D, E & F models.  One major difference is this B model has the twin 20mm tail turret from the B-36.

Darwin

www.britmodeller.com/.../index.php

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The B-52 and me, we have grown old, gray and overweight together.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 26, 2012 10:05 AM

Striker8241

Bish

Thanks for the updated version Russ.

You're welcome, Bish. Hope it's useful to you.

Russ

O don't worry, it will be. It might be a few years before i get round to building my B-52, but i will deffinatly be keeping this info on file.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, August 26, 2012 9:49 AM

Bockscar

Some shots for the Dayton BUFF:

Picture taken at aft, looking at forward bomb Bay, note the wheel well to the left, that's at the back.

A view of the fore bomb bay section:

Great pictures, Dom! Thanks!

Bockscar

Note the Air Force Museum has used a darker green, but I don't know shishka from bob on on the paint:

As I remember, the color of the anti-corrosion green paint varied throughout the plane, probably due to aging and to changes in color specifications over the years. The paint I used is lighter than olive drab (the color of my bombs) which is probably a good thing as the bomb clips should stand out better against the walls of the bomb bay.

Bockscar

Hmmmm....card stock.......suspicious, eh Russ?:

Lol yep Big Smile

Bockscar

Also I think the upper doors were closed at the time I took these. The staff didn't like it when I jumped up and slapped the inside BB either....lol....Devil

 
Lol! You naughty boy! You are correct, Dom. The upper doors remained closed and locked except when loading bomb clips, special weapons, or nukes.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:28 PM

Some shots for the Dayton BUFF:

Picture taken at aft, looking at forward bomb Bay, note the wheel well to the left, that's at the back.

A view of the fore bomb bay section:

Note the Air Force Museum has used a darker green, but I don't know shishka from bob on on the paint:

Hmmmm....card stock.......suspicious, eh Russ?:

Also I think the upper doors were closed at the time I took these. The staff didn't like it when I jumped up and slapped the inside BB either....lol....Devil

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 25, 2012 8:01 PM

Bish

Thanks for the updated version Russ.

You're welcome, Bish. Hope it's useful to you.

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 25, 2012 8:00 PM

Bockscar

Many thanks for the updated clip manual.

-Dom

 
My pleasure, Dom. And thank you for the good words.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:28 PM

Thanks for the updated version Russ.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:15 PM

Fantastic work Russ!

Many thanks for the updated clip manual.

I really appreciate your descriptions,

your technical drawings, the photos,

and your WIP pictures.

A highly valued contribution to my BUFF

file.

Some work to do:

I need a few more details, and to cut away the upper bomb bay doors:

Cutting away those uppers will make detailing a whole lot easier.

-Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 24, 2012 3:12 PM

It's an updated version. There's a table at the end of the document that indicates what was changed.

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 24, 2012 1:41 PM

Is this the same as the one you sent me last month.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 24, 2012 10:32 AM

I have written a procedure on how to construct the bomb clip shown in this thread. If you would like a copy of the latest version, please PM me.

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:56 AM

Ray Marotta

Hi Ken,

I was at Naha AFB 'mid 61 - late '64.  My Dad was Wing Line Chief of the 51st FIW (F-102s)

You go to Kubasaki?

Ray

Hi Ray,

Sorry for the late reply, I have been really busy at work.  I was only between the ages of 5 and 7 while we were at Kadena, so I do not know the names of places.  I do remember living close enough to the ocean that I could walk to it from our house.  Also, there was what I believe was an Army base directly across the highway that ran behind our house.

Ken

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Posted by Ray Marotta on Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:29 PM

Hi Ken,

I was at Naha AFB 'mid 61 - late '64.  My Dad was Wing Line Chief of the 51st FIW (F-102s)

You go to Kubasaki?

Ray

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, July 27, 2012 7:03 PM

You're welcome, Ken. Glad you enjoyed them.

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, July 27, 2012 6:42 PM

Striker8241

Here are three links to the U-tapao Alumni Associations website munitions loading videos for the B-52D. They show the complete process from unloading the bombs from the ships to loading them on the clips, and then loading the clips on the plane.

Part 1 Ship to Shore:  www.youtube.com/watch

Part 2 Assembly and Clip Loading: www.youtube.com/watch

Part 3 Loading Clips on the Aircraft:  www.youtube.com/watch

Cheers,

Russ

Very cool Russ. I just watched all three.  Very interesting.  Thank you for sharing that with us!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, July 27, 2012 11:06 AM

Here are three links to the U-tapao Alumni Associations website munitions loading videos for the B-52D. They show the complete process from unloading the bombs from the ships to loading them on the clips, and then loading the clips on the plane.

Part 1 Ship to Shore:  www.youtube.com/watch

Part 2 Assembly and Clip Loading: www.youtube.com/watch

Part 3 Loading Clips on the Aircraft:  www.youtube.com/watch

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:13 PM

Just had a quick flick through, will read it all later. But first impression, brilliant. Those photos of the real stuff look great and will be very useful. Been watching you build the clip and was woundering how they attached, now i know.

I think we may be seeing a few of these in the next few years, some great work. Thanks Yes

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 15, 2012 2:35 PM

E-Mail sent.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:15 PM

Hi, All,

I haven't been able to find a way to post my construction procedure here for the big belly bomb clip so if you'd like a copy, please PM me.

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, July 13, 2012 6:52 PM

Bockscar

Hi Russ:

I have a a 1/72 B-52 hanging from my ceiling awaiting.

I built a bomb bay for it, and while it is far from perfect, I got

a couple of chances now to see the bomb bay in person

at the Wright Patterson AFB Museum.

Having put the bay in, the old Monogram parts don't work,

so I would be interested in putting in those clips you've designed.

 

Dom

Hi, Dom,

No problem, bud. I just finished an update and have asked Ken to convert it to a pdf for me. As soon as I have it, I'll be glad to send you a copy, or maybe I can post it here. Will investigate.

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:54 PM

Hi Russ:

I have a a 1/72 B-52 hanging from my ceiling awaiting.

I built a bomb bay for it, and while it is far from perfect, I got

a couple of chances now to see the bomb bay in person

at the Wright Patterson AFB Museum.

Having put the bay in, the old Monogram parts don't work,

so I would be interested in putting in those clips you've designed.

 

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:54 PM

Hello, Ken,

I have the document finished and will be happy to send you a copy if you can PM me and provide me an email address. It's in web format so you can view it with your web browser. Keep in mind that the instructions haven't been reviewed or verified yet so there are bound to be mistakes.

I don't remember seeing 105's or F4s except as transients while I was at Kadena. I believe they were all moved south to Naha AB. I later worked on both of those aircraft types in Thailand and back in the states at Nellis AFB, Nevada.

Best regards,

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:33 AM

Hi Striker,

I read through your posts and saw your pictures of the bomb clips you made.  Very impressive!  If you wouldn't mind, I would like to be added to your list when you get that document done.

My family was stationed at Kadena Okinawa from June 1962 through December 1964.  My Dad was a crew chief on the F-105D when we first arrived then shortly afterwards was switched over to the RF-101C.  The last 3 months we were there he was TDY in Vietnam at several bases, Tan Son Nhut,  Nha-Trang, and Da Nang.

Ken

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