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Flat coat(Lame question)
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 2, 2003 8:53 AM
I have been wanting to put a coat of flat on many of my models after decaling but never knoew how to use the thing... The Tamiya flat I bought has remained on my desk for many months... Unlike the clear it does not come in a homogenous liquid form... Instead it comes as a pasty substance... MY question is... How does one go about spraying it or brushing it??? Kindly help!! Else my models will never be complete.....!!!!

Phew... finally got myself to ask this question........

Thanking you in advance,

Cheers,
Nandakumar
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Washington State
Posted by leemitcheltree on Saturday, August 2, 2003 10:22 AM
Nandakumar, listen very carefully -
Holy moly - be careful with that stuff -
It's actually a flat base that's used to add to gloss paints to make them dull.
Whatever you do, DON'T thin it and spray it on all by itself!!! You'll end up with your whole model turning a chalky white color - do you hear the voice of experience in what I'm saying? I killed a beautiful Spitfire once using that stuff - the label had Japanese writing on it - no English, so I didn't know how to use it...........................
You'll have to experiment with the correct proportions to mix the flat base to a gloss color - or a gloss clear. Just experiment on a aluminium can or something.
Personally, I just use Humbrol Dullcote or one of the Microscale products - I don't bother with the flat base - it's easier to just open up a jar and paint away, instead of taking the chance of adding too much of the flat base and ending up with a flat white model...................
Good luck and cheers,
LeeTree

Cheers, LeeTree
Remember, Safety Fast!!!

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 2, 2003 10:55 AM
leemitcheltree,

Hey thanks very much man!! You just saved my model in time!!! Yeah Japanese instructions cant be read by me!! Thank you very much... I was tempted to try it on a refuelling truck cos my dark earth has a semi gloss finish!!

Cheers,

Nandakumar
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: NE Georgia
Posted by Keyworth on Saturday, August 2, 2003 1:15 PM
If you have the option, check out Testors Clear Flat Spray. I believe that is the product you're looking for. Glad you found out about Tamiya Flat before tragedy struck. That's been a theme that has shown up occasionally on this forum. Nice call, Lee. :)
PS: Nandakumar, there's no such thing as a lame question around here. If you need information, just ask. Someone's bound to be able to help. - Ed
"There's no problem that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives"
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 2, 2003 9:43 PM
Sad but true....

Testor paints are no longer imported in Singapore!!!Sad [:(]


Thanks very much Keyworth... I'll try to look for it cos I dont think stocks may have vanished...

Cheers,
Nandakumar
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Washington State
Posted by leemitcheltree on Sunday, August 3, 2003 6:02 AM
Nandakumar,
I'm glad I was a help.
Keyworth said it best - there is no such thing as a lame question.
If you don't know, then ask. We'll all help as much as we can. That's why we participate in this forum. Any help I can give is a bonus.
I have a friend who has built only 7 models (cars) in his life, and because of my hints and tips, as well his subscription to ScaleAuto (another Kalmbach production) he's building models that look like he's been building for 15 years, because he asked question after question - I wish my first models had looked that good and that I'd had someone to ask all the confusing questions.
The point I'm trying to make is, "There are no stupid questions".
The only stupid question is the one you DON'T ask - and then you'll probably get something wrong because you DIDN'T ask that question.
OK?
Whatever you need, just ask and someone will probably have the answer.
Cheers mate,
LeeTree

Cheers, LeeTree
Remember, Safety Fast!!!

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 3, 2003 6:25 AM
Not a lame question at all, very FAQ as a matter of fact. I use the Tamiya Flat Base Mixed in with Pascoes Long Life which is the current alternative to Johnson's Future acrylic floor sealer here in Australia. The Pascoes is sold here in Australia, I am not sure what it would be sold as in Singapore, but most acrylic floor sealers that you can mop on, are compatible. You can experiment on old models if you are not sure. Getting back to the Flat Base, it is very strong and is to be mixed with gloss or semi gloss paints to make them matte. A little goes a long ways. I use it with the floor sealer mixed at 7 parts Long Life to 1 part Flat Base and this gives me a nice matte finish with a strong durable coat. If you look at my post about the Ta183 Huckebein there is a photo of the last kit I matte coated with the combination.
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Posted by kestrel0222 on Sunday, August 3, 2003 7:11 AM
I have recently found in my local hobby shop both gloss and flat clear coats made by Model Master. They come in a 1 oz. bottle instead of the normal 1/2 oz. size. I have not used them yet, I still have the Testers product to use up first. I have been using the Testers gloss an flat for many years and have found NO problems with them, I think they are a great product. I hope this helps.
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 4, 2003 6:27 AM
Thanks guys... Frankly I feel secure building models knowing you guys're around and there to rescue me from potential disasters!!!

Cheers,
Nandakumar
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, August 4, 2003 12:45 PM
Hey guys, just gimme a holler when Japanese gives ya any trouble! If you can scan it or otherwise get it onto a format I can see, I can give ya a quick translation.
Actually, I probably have the product right here in my house, which would be even quicker.
Don't hesitate to ask!
~Brian
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