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F-18 build
Posted by Lloyd on Friday, April 7, 2006 12:03 PM

Hi,

I've been working on Academy's excellent F/A18C "Operation Iraqi Freedom" kit. It's been a slow build but it's taking shape. I've added some PE details which have improved some areas of the kit, mainly the front undercarriage and wheel well.

It would be great for anyone else working on this kit to post some progress shots in this thread, incidently. Feel free,  I'd like to see how others are finding this kit. 

I'm planning to use the markings for the VFA-27 Royal Maces included in the kit. Hopefully, these images will work...

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Posted by Lufbery on Friday, April 7, 2006 12:15 PM
Lloyd,

Your Hornet looks pretty darned good. It's hard for me, who's been working in 1/72 scale for a while, to comprehend just how large that kit is.

Please keep posting photos.

Regards,

-Drew

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  • From: Drummondville, Quebec, Canada
Posted by Yann Solo on Friday, April 7, 2006 12:30 PM

Hi Lloyd, as discused earlier, here are some pictures of what i've done so far.

And here is the bird I want to replicate.

The decals come from Leading Edge Models and they produce the Australian version too.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Friday, April 7, 2006 2:46 PM
A big thank you to Curtis Remington who told me what to do to transform this F/A-18C Hornet into a CF-18 Hornet.  I wouldn't have notice the two missing bulges behind the cockpit and the missing fairing on the tail fins of the Canadian version.
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Posted by Wulf on Friday, April 7, 2006 5:42 PM
Very convincing detail and wear on the landing gear. Cockpit looks excellent too. That will be a nice bird when done.
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Posted by mucker on Friday, April 7, 2006 6:24 PM
Llyod, she's a beauty so far. The landing gear is very realistic. Keep posting your progress pics.

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Posted by Lloyd on Saturday, April 8, 2006 12:57 AM

Thanks for the comments. Looks niceYann, those Canadian markings will be eyecatching. I was tempted to do this version actually...

http://www.notebookpub.com/images/avalon%202005/FA-18-Hornet-B.jpg

 

The markings are available, but that might be for a future project anyway.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Saturday, April 8, 2006 8:57 PM
Lloyd, I had problems fitting the side of the plane around the cockpit (step 6) there was a huge gap between both parts on the nose.  It looks like the front part of the wheel well is too large.  I've been able to glue it but not without resistance.  Sorry I can't post more pictures, my camera is being repaired right now.  It'll be back soon.
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Posted by Lloyd on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:00 AM

Yeah, I had some problems getting both those fuselage halves together. I used alot of super-glue to get them joined but even the a few joints came apart later on. I reinforced then two halve with some strips of styrene, visible in the shots.

I'm having some problems with the fit of the intakes. I will probably have to file away some areas to get the fit right. Thats the only way I can see to fix the problem.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:13 AM

I did some work again in the cockpit cause I was not satisfied, it's still not as I would like but I guess it's a never ending problem. 

I'm at the step of installing the intakes too.  The fit seem to be fairly good, not perfect but nothing I can't handle.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:50 PM
You were right Lloyd, the intakes exceeds on the side a little bit.  That will need putty which I don't have!  I don't have any hobby shop in my area and next time I go to the big city is in about two weeks.  I might glue them in place anyway and continue the build.  I have assemble all the weapons so far so I have a lot of sanding to do during those two weeks.  Oouups!  I just heard a "clac" while I'm writing this, sounds like a glued join that gave up.
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Posted by Lloyd on Friday, April 14, 2006 2:09 AM

I'd recommend tamiya putty, Ive found that to be quite easy to work with. I also use masking tape alot to preserve the detail when applying the putty. Makes it so much easier!

As for the intakes, well, I'm not sure if it was something I did wrong but the fit wasn't very good. In the end, after some filing and modifications they sit in postion pretty well now. (the shot is just a test fit, they line up nearly perfectly now)

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Posted by Yann Solo on Saturday, April 15, 2006 8:15 PM
 Lloyd1 wrote:

I'd recommend tamiya putty, Ive found that to be quite easy to work with. I also use masking tape alot to preserve the detail when applying the putty. Makes it so much easier!

I'll have it, but in about two weeks!Dead [xx(] Until then, I'm gonna work on the figures and weapons, there is also a lot of sanding to do so I think I have plenty of work for two weeks anyway, it's just bad that there is no hobyy shop closer.  I might get some models also, I'll look for the 1/32 Trumpeter A-7E corsair or the Mig-29 Fulcrum and some Armor, I'd like to try it.  Tamiya kits look pretty well detailed.

I've tried to eliminate the seam on the canopies, the result is not satisfying.  The Future helped alot but sanding is still apparent. With a better sanding and polishing, it will completely disappear.  I will soak it in Windex and do it again.  I have sand the canopy with 2000 grain sandpaper but I can get better result by polishing it with some nail polisher or a coffee filter.  I'll let you know how it turned out and I'll post some pictures when its done. 

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Posted by Lloyd on Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:27 AM

That canopy has had me worried, I may hold off doing anything till the future arrivesSmile [:)]

I'm about ready to undercoat the fuselage, I'll post some shots later.

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Posted by leadsled on Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:34 AM
 Lloyd1 wrote:

I'd recommend tamiya putty, Ive found that to be quite easy to work with. I also use masking tape alot to preserve the detail when applying the putty. Makes it so much easier!

As for the intakes, well, I'm not sure if it was something I did wrong but the fit wasn't very good. In the end, after some filing and modifications they sit in postion pretty well now. (the shot is just a test fit, they line up nearly perfectly now)

I don't remember having too much trouble with my intakes. I had problems with the seam/joint when I joined the fuselage sections together. It still isn't the greatest but it looks better. Good luck with your bird.
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Posted by Yann Solo on Monday, April 24, 2006 9:21 AM

Here is the fit of the intakes, a little putty will be required.

Also, here is the modified tail fins, I had to remove one fairing to make my CF-18 accurate.

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Posted by Lloyd on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:14 AM
Looks like you did a good job getting the intakes to fit properly. I've got mine masked ready for priming, which I'll do when I get some timeAngry [:(!]. I think I'll spray the fins and intakes seperately and attach them on after, might make the airbrushing easier, I hope.
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Posted by Yann Solo on Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:05 PM

I'm having a hard time right now playing with putty.  It is hard to work around the intakes with sand paper.  I would need a decent sanding stick.  Anyway, I will be ready to paint that plane real soon.  I can't wait to see the final result.

I've built my first armor while waiting for the putty to cure.  You can have a look on the Light Armor Group Build.  I liked it a lot.  I'll switch over to armor building when this CF-18 is finished.

Oh! Have you received your bottle of Future yet?

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Posted by Lloyd on Friday, May 12, 2006 5:42 AM

No sign of that future Yann. I hope it's not stuck in customs or anything!Sad [:(]  Any progress on your bug?

I had some problems with the spray job on the hornet. I airbrushed it with some model master (and humbrol for the primer coat) but the paint hasn't really gone down very well.  I found that I was getting dusty build-ups in certain areas, especially in and around the intakes and sides of the fuselage. Although I could wipe this dust build-up the final look isn't very good or smooth. The paint almost looks "furry" and wiping and blowing away the dust leaves a cruddy, streaky finish.

I was wondering if any airbrush experts here could give me some advice on how to avoid this problem. I'm using a good quality aircompressor (with a moisture trap) and I'm getting the same problem with all four airbrushes I've tried out. I have the paint thinned with 60% thinners, and I try not to pull the trigger back to far and build the layers of paint up gradually, with the airbrush reasonably close to the surface. I get the impression the problem is worse when the airbrush isn't at 90 degrees to the surface when spraying, but I still get the dusty layer regardless.

Is there anything I can mix into my paint perhaps? I'd spray with gloss (assuming that's easier) but mixing the paint is a pain.

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Posted by dragonfly on Friday, May 12, 2006 8:39 AM

First let me say the pre-shading looks very good. That technique is always convincing on modern jet aircraft, and you nailed it. As far as your "dusty" problem...I suspect what's happening is you're getting dry bounce. When you spray the wing root, for example, the paint is bouncing up on the fuselage sides and drying. This is a common problem that many modelers experience, including myself.  Anywhere on the model that two surfaces meet perpendicular to one another can cause this. To solve this in the future, move in close to the wingroot, and with low pressure,spray the inside corner first. Then angle the spray away from the fuselage out onto the wing so as to not let the overspray bounce back onto the horizontal surface. Then, repeat the process on the fuse. not letting the overspray hit the wing. You must move in close in these areas to keep the spray pattern narrow and wet. Make sense?  If you do get some dry bounce, let the paint cure and sand the rough spots out. You're going to add clear coats later anyway.

Hope this helps. Your Hornet is coming along very nicely. Can't wait to see more.

Jerry

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Posted by Yann Solo on Friday, May 12, 2006 8:53 AM
Yeah!  Looks pretty cool.  What is that preshading technique?  I might try it on mine too.  Can you tell me moore about this process.  As I understand this is you spray a thin line of darker grey in each panel lines and you paint the whole body afterward and that preshade will appear underneath the last coat.  Isn it?
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Posted by Tecs on Friday, May 12, 2006 10:05 AM
I have recently tried this tecnique for the first time and have posted the results on this thread:

http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/617243/ShowPost.aspx

I primed the model Grey, then pre shaded the panel lines and oil runs etc with black-brown. I then filled in the centre of each of the panels in Barley Grey it was then just a case of doing a general overspray in barley grey untill I ended up with the look I wanted. This method darkens the weathered areas but highlights the middle of the panels giving the weathered look. Bear in mind this was my first Kit in 20 years and my first time using an airbrush so I imageine it will only get better.
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Posted by Yann Solo on Friday, May 12, 2006 10:19 AM
Cool!  Very nice results.  It looks notto hard to do.  I'll do it on my CF-18.  Thanks for the information.
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Posted by Lloyd on Friday, May 12, 2006 11:08 AM

Thanks dragonfly, that will be a great help. I may even use some loose masks to protect the areas from the dry bounce effect. That's actually my first attempt at pre-shading, so its a little untidy but I intend to add another coat so the effect will be quite subtle, compared to the photos anyway.

My approach was to airbrush a white-primer undercoat and then I sprayed black for the pre-shading. Once the light-ghost grey goes over the top it does look quite realistic. I was quite happy with the effect, apart from airbrush issues I was having. Hopefully a wash along the panel lines will set the effect off nicely.

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, May 12, 2006 5:49 PM

WOW Lloyd....sorry I missed thissi when it was first posted.  Very nice job.  The nose gear looks great... as does eveything else.

 

Marc  

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