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French a/c group build 2012-13
Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, June 15, 2012 10:30 AM

Alright, there has been enough rumbling about this one that it's starting to run into other threads... Embarrassed Time to give it a home of its own!

The French aviation industry has been quite prolific over the years, from early designs from Voison and Blériot to recent warplanes from the Dassault corporation. The designs range from very attractive to, well, bag-over-its-head ugly. There have also been a wide range of operators over the years, seeing combat in various parts of the world - all kinds of modeling opportunities!

I won't be able to start my contribution until the fall, but there seems to be some early interest so we will be starting up shortly.

  • Any aircraft manufactured in France (* if you have something in mind that you think may be worthy of consideration, please post the details & throw yourself on the mercy of the Benevolent GB Dictator, me!)
  • Crossovers always welcome
  • Start date = July 14th 2012, Bastille day.
  • Closing date = April 25 2013, anniversary of the first flight of the Potez 630!

Special thanks to Ninetalis for the Badge work on this one:

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, June 15, 2012 10:31 AM

Separate page for the builders....

  • VanceCrozier - 1/72 Heller MS.406 - complete! - page 28
  • VanceCrozier - 1/72 Hispano-Nieuport NiD-52 in Spanish Nationalist markings (Azur kit)
    - complete - page 36
  • PaperPanzer - 1/72 Smer Amiot 143; 1/72 Heller Dewoitine D520
    1/72 Heller Dewoitine d.510- done - page 12
  • taxtp - 1/72 High Planes Dassault Mirage III0, RAAF markings - finished, page 30
  • stikpusher - Dassault jet tbd
  • ruddratt - Roden 1/48 Nieuport 28c1
  • Helo H-34 - 1/72 HobbyBoss H-34 - Sud-Est built for French Navy and Heller's Nord 2501 Noratlas
  • DoogsATX - 1/48 Tamiya D.520 - finished, page 17
  • Sprue-ce Goose -Testors SPAD 13C.1
  • p38jl - found a loophole! see page 2 - F4U-7 Corsair - complete - page 35
  • The Navigator - SPAD 13
  • Echo139er - helicopter tbd...
  • Theuns - 1/48 HobbyBoss Mirage III cz - complete - page 34

    1/72 Airfix Puma, modified for SAAF service - complete - page 17
  • bsyamato - ESCI Nieuport 17 - complete - page 33
  • sub revolution - Mach2 1/72  Amiot 351-354 - complete - page 30
  • Scorpiomikey - Bugatti 100 Racer  1/48 Planet Models
  • ozzman  - Eduard's Mirage IIICJ in Israeli service
  • falconmod - Mirage IIIC
  • fjs3 - either a Tamiya D-520, or an Ln-401?

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Posted by PaperPanzer on Friday, June 15, 2012 7:31 PM

VanceCrozier

Separate page for the builders....

Does that mean we post the pics seperatly and talk iin this thread?

- Count me in for later on, I have a 1/72 Smer Amiot 143 and a 1/72 Heller Dewoitine d.510.Big Smile

Auctung! Panzer!

- "And now for something completely different..."- Monty Python's Flying Circus


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Posted by taxtp on Friday, June 15, 2012 7:37 PM

Definitely in Vance, at this stage it's a Mirage but it could well change. Just let me get some of these other GBs under control.

I like these off beat topics, keep up the good work.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, June 15, 2012 7:52 PM

I'll build a Caravelle. A later date is good for me, too.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 15, 2012 8:00 PM

Oh you would have to tempt me with this....

Perhaps after my Italian job is done something French would be in order...Hmm I have lots of D'assault jets...

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, June 18, 2012 2:00 PM

Yes PaperPanzer - bring all that french aviation talk over here!
taxtp - As much as I love building a Bf109, I really enjoy the stuff that only a few others are building as well.
Bondoman! I think I can officially say that I have yet to be involved in a GB that has an airliner! Hmm Bring it on!
Stik - moving from the Italian job to something with a French Connection?!?!? Whistling

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, June 18, 2012 8:48 PM

Hmmmmm, SPADs, Nieuports, Hanriots, man, I'd be nuts not to get in on this one Vance.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, June 18, 2012 8:54 PM

Dates?

I'm likely in with a Tamiya D.520

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On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, June 18, 2012 9:47 PM

Hi Vance ;

I'm not 100% sure if my idea for a build fits into the French a/c GB but I was thinking of building the 1/72 Hobby Boss H-34A Choctaw which comes with French Naval markings ...

According to my Sikorsky H-34 reference book by Len Lundh , Sud Est were building Sikorsky H-34's under license for the French Air Force and Navy ...

So would the the Hobby Boss H-34 be acceptable as a French Naval , Jeanne d'Arc HSS-1...

John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, June 18, 2012 11:39 PM

I didn't think I had any aircraft kits in my stash which were designed exclusively in France but I just checked the Israeli IDF stash and saw I have a few Nord Noratlas 2501 and a couple of Alouette III .

If you don't think that the HSS-1 (H-34) would be suitable , I can easierly go with either the Noratlas or Alouette

John .

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:57 AM

ruddratt - hey, I hadn't even been thinking of WW1 subjects, but yes, there are a good bunch to choose from there as well. Come on in!

DoogsATX - I hadn't nailed down the official dates yet, pending what everyone is up for. I know I won't be able to touch anything French until the fall, but there were a couple of folks making noise about starting shortly. I'll need to have a look at some French history, pull a couple significant dates for us.

Helo H-34 - well, not French designed, but I suppose if they built them at Sud-Est they must be using metric nuts & bolts. (I also suspect you have good info on H-34s…Wink ) I'm using my status as "Benevolent Dictator" and giving it a green light. (Noratlas & Alouette are good options too!)

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:05 AM

 M E R D E .........

Vance:.you are making these GBs  very tempting.

Somewhere I have an old 1/48 Testors SPAD 13 with AEF markings...............

I'd be a late entry as I gotta finish that SAAB first, though.

Must the French aircraft need to wear French insignia?

Must the builder be a BIG FRENCH GROUPIE?

.

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:39 AM

French-built with foreign markings is fine. Using a Heller kit gets you bonus points. The builder doesn't have to be a BIG FRENCH GROUPIE, but a slight accent when ordering at a French restaurant may help.

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:53 AM

hummm... I shall peruse my stash.... it has to be French built correct ? not made somewhere else in French markings ? .. just double cking... I do have a P-36 ( Hawk 75, for French export )... in French camo markings..

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:03 AM

The plan is indeed French-built aircraft.

Hey, is that Hawk 75 a 1/72 Heller kit by any chance?!?! (I have one sitting on my desk right now.) Maybe, just maybe, the group would allow it if... it is indeed the Heller kit; and you provide a photograph of the kit and yourself wearing a beret & eating croissant...

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:26 AM

sigh.. no.. its a AMT P-36.. has some French markings inside.. I have kissed a Frech girl before.. and French kissed.. does that count ?? ..

I think I have a Heller F4u-7 in my stash.. in French air arm colors.. has the ame Suez markings as my Skyraider I just did...

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:39 AM

VanceCrozier

French-built with foreign markings is fine. Using a Heller kit gets you bonus points. The builder doesn't have to be a BIG FRENCH GROUPIE, but a slight accent when ordering at a French restaurant may help.

Unfortunately, my French accent sounds suspiciously like Dwight Schultz as "Howling Mad" Murdock ..........Surprise

1/48 Testors SPAD in AEF OK?

Très Bien !

Je cherche pour cette maquette.

Tentatively, If and when I find the kit, I'm in.


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Posted by Echo139er on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:37 PM

Puis-je participer avec HH65-A Dolphin?  Il est fabriqué en France. Oui?

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Posted by carsanab on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:40 PM

Le Meouw??????????

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:46 PM

Echo139er

Puis-je participer avec HH65-A Dolphin?  Il est fabriqué en France. Oui?

hmmmm - french-designed, the HH's are actually built in the US.... by "Aerospatiale Helicopter Corporation", which sounded too French for Texas and changed names to "American Eurocopter", which is now a subsidiary of EADS.... sweet mother, the whole aerospace industry is owned by one man isn't it?!?! 

I wouldn't call it a 100% contribution, but I think it's "french enough" assuming there are no objections. (It will also bring some red+white SAR goodness to the group, right) I'm liking the variety that is showing up in here folks! Yes

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:49 PM

I will be watching the Chocktaw build with interest. I just got one aswell :-D

Put me down for a 1/48 Hobbboss Mirage III CZ  , yes, you guessed it - SAAF deleviry bare metal sceeme LOL!

Maybe a Puma helo aswell if I can get one somewhere.

 

Theuns

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:50 PM

Gotcha Theuns!

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:07 PM

Vance ?? ruling on my Corsair ?  ( also.. its a French name...  ) Whistling

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:12 PM

p38jl

Vance ?? ruling on my Corsair ?  ( also.. its a French name...  ) Whistling

hmmm, still debating over my afternoon café-au lait - were any of the post WW2 French Corsairs built in France?

~EDIT!~

The Benevolent GB Dictator (ie, me) has made a ruling...

Seeing as how France was occupied by the Germans, and the Allies blasted anything that even looked like a factory ahead of D-Day, France was simply unable to build anything of their own for several years post-war. According to (yes, I know...) Wikipedia: 

the The last production Corsair was the "F4U-7", which was built specifically for the French naval air arm, the Aeronavale. The XF4U-7 prototype did its test flight on 2 July 1952 with a total of 94 F4U-7s built for the French Navy's Aéronavale

the -U7 was built specifically for France on American soil. I'll assume that, had France been able to, she would have built this machine in-country under license, making it eligible for the GB.

Mannnn, this dictator stuff is stressful. I may have to leave work early today. Black Eye

 

 

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:25 PM

VanceCrozier

 p38jl:

Vance ?? ruling on my Corsair ?  ( also.. its a French name...  ) Whistling

 

hmmm, still debating over my afternoon café-au lait - were any of the post WW2 French Corsairs built in France?

~EDIT!~

The Benevolent GB Dictator (ie, me) has made a ruling...

Seeing as how France was occupied by the Germans, and the Allies blasted anything that even looked like a factory ahead of D-Day, France was simply unable to build anything of their own for several years post-war. According to (yes, I know...) Wikipedia: 

the The last production Corsair was the "F4U-7", which was built specifically for the French naval air arm, the Aeronavale. The XF4U-7 prototype did its test flight on 2 July 1952 with a total of 94 F4U-7s built for the French Navy's Aéronavale

the -U7 was built specifically for France on American soil. I'll assume that, had France been able to, she would have built this machine in-country under license, making it eligible for the GB.

Mannnn, this dictator stuff is stressful. I may have to leave work early today. Black Eye

 

 

Thank you Most Benevolent Dictator to the North.. !! Bow DownBow Downit will look good next to my Esci Skyraider.. their both the same scheme.. Yes   Your Humble Dictatorness is becoming well known amongst the masses...Whistling

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:29 PM

Let them eat cake!

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:46 PM

VanceCrozier

 

Mannnn, this dictator stuff is stressful. I may have to leave work early today. Black Eye

Grab a couple of Milkshakes on route to bring up your energy level...........Big Smile

Normally, I'd suggest a beer but don't want you in trouble for drunk driving.Embarrassed

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:52 PM

Also have a ball game later tonight - I can't imagine trying to play the infield wearing "beer glasses"...

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:17 PM

Theuns

I will be watching the Chocktaw build with interest. I just got one aswell :-D

Put me down for a 1/48 Hobbboss Mirage III CZ  , yes, you guessed it - SAAF deleviry bare metal sceeme LOL!

Maybe a Puma helo aswell if I can get one somewhere.

 

Theuns

Hi Theuns , the Hobby Boss H-34 kit goes together quite well ; However there main rotors are going in the wrong direction and I have been using spare rotors from the Italeri H-34 kit to replace them

Also the tail rotors are also going in the wrong direction as well but so does italeri's . I'm going to cut the shaft from one side of the tail rotor and glue it onto the other side , which is a lot easier than cutting the four tail rotor blades off and turnning them over .

Vance , I like the idea of "Bonus Points" if we build a Heller kit , so I'll add the Nord 2501 Noratlas as well .

I have a Israeli Noratlas under construction as part of the IDF Suez Campaign and according to one of my Israeli Air Force reference books the French Armee de l'Air were operating Noratlas in support of Israeli columns in the Sinai ...

Both Noratlas builds will accompany each other nicely  Smile

What's the Start Date ?

John .

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