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New Dragon Tunisian Tiger Coming
Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:18 AM

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:37 AM

Temptation never ends...............Whistling

Does Tamiya have their own ( non specific ) early version on the market ?

If so, I am curious how the two may compare once the Dragon kit is released..

BTW, are Dragon instructions improving? 

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Posted by T26E4 on Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:05 AM

Dragon's Tigers are much more accurate than the Tamiya ones given the research available.  The last newly tooled Tamiya Tiger was what?  2001?  While we can agree that DML instructions tend to be pretty poor -- their Tiger I kits are a clear winner.

 

That being said, I will always respect Tamiya's 1989 release of Kit 35146.  It was the first big effort in 1/35 by them after many moribund years.  What followed was a quick re-tool of many older kits which, IMHO, resurrected the 1/35 AFV genre.

 

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:19 AM

T26E4 

Thanks for letting me know about Dragon vs. Tamiya Tiger Is.

I do not usually build 1/35 and purchased Tamiya's kit 35146 ( with extras) at a swap meet.

Looks like I will also be looking forward to the Dragon release.

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Posted by Shawn M. on Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:19 PM

wonder if they will mold the damaged exhaust shrouds and turret storage

I love the smell of plastic in the morning

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:29 PM

I couldn't force myself to build that Tiger and cover it with grass, dirt and battle damage trying to simulate the movie. I think this one should be a clean build. Dragon is having some nice releases.

Terry

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Posted by Byrden on Friday, April 17, 2015 1:12 PM

>> "wonder if they will mold the damaged exhaust shrouds and turret storage"

The kit will represent the tank "as new", in German service, not in the museum or the movie.

David

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Posted by richs26 on Sunday, April 19, 2015 5:39 PM
Shawn M.

wonder if they will mold the damaged exhaust shrouds and turret storage

That is why they call it modeling, not assembling.

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Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:18 PM

All I can think is, cripes EIGHTY bucks for a Tiger kit????!! And that's the "pre-order" price? That's straight up price gouging in my books, and they're just using the big exposure from the "Fury" movie to push that price. Man, come on---at this point, the "Smart Kit" stuff isn't "new technology" and I doubt there's any "new" technology that would justify that price. Is it going to have a full interior? Engine? It might be worth it if it comes with that, but at some point here, I can't justify the cost.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:53 PM

Won't cost half that if ya wait 20 years and buy it at a swap meet..........Whistling

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, April 20, 2015 12:38 AM

Sprue-ce Goose

Won't cost half that if ya wait 20 years and buy it at a swap meet..........Whistling

maybe ... I am wondering if it will follow what happened to the Cyber Hobby's Tunisian Tiger.  I think it was just a single run, and prices went sky high on evil bay.  Ten years later, rare find and if found runs at least 4x original price.  Maybe some will buy this one just for the investment?

regards,

Jack

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Posted by jibber on Monday, April 20, 2015 7:22 AM

$80 to $120 kits are more common than ever, I'm just not buying as many. I get the amount of work and money that goes into a new release, but as a modeler this would be a kit I can't do without, but I'd much rather buy 2 or 3 quality kits for the same money. I'm really happy these companies give us so many great kits and options but I think as a strategy for retail sales, wouldn't it be better to turn over a few kits as opposed to one bigger sale. I think most of us might have a modeling budget but its just how and where we spend it.

Having said that I'm looking forward to this one….    

Terry

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Posted by Byrden on Monday, April 20, 2015 7:32 AM

The CH kits were stated to be short-run, and as far as I know that promise was kept.

This will be a Dragon kit, which implies that it can be produced and re-released for as long as Dragon see fit.

David

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, April 27, 2015 3:02 PM
I just saw that this kit will feature DS Cacti

Woo-hoo that clinches it for me

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Posted by pordoi on Monday, April 27, 2015 5:47 PM

Tojo72
I just saw that this kit will feature DS Cacti

I wonder if those are re-boxed from the PzIV ausfE kit (DML6364, I think).  That kit even included an in scale desert lizard!  Hey, they got the lizard right, even if the PzIV had some significant errors... Smile

Don

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Posted by Byrden on Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:25 AM

Seriously?

I don't know that this Tiger ever got anywhere near a cactus. Its movements are not recorded in full. All I can say is that it participated in a battle 10km south of Medjez-el-Bab, which is scrub and farm land.

David

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Posted by JohanT on Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:07 PM

Personally I was quite happy with the release of the Command Version CH 6660 and the Mid 6700.

Covers all I want t o do.

Not sure that I understand the urge for the Bovington 131 except for it being depicted in the recent movie.

My understanding is that this is NOT the Bovington 131 but the real deal.

That would raise my interest but I would hold the price tag against the Zvezda that comes at 30% of the price.

A lot of DIY to get the Zvezda converted to a Tunisian, but then again I am less interested in the Tunisian then getting the Eastern Front ones correct.

Just my 50 cent.

Best Regards

Johan

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 8:08 AM

Wow, DS cacti? To be honest, I didn't even realize that North Africa had cacti lol...I thought it was just a North American thing. Has anyone seen war footage with a cactus in it?

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:23 AM

Cactus aren't a common theme in Tunisian Tiger photos, but they did exist:

No Tiger , but another photo from the Tunisian theater:

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:54 AM

That's funny, because from this pic on Wikipedia, it looks as though cacti don't extend that far north:

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:55 AM

Well, what do they know? I'm sure the cacti were quite real to the poor devils stuck in the middle of that cacti forest for hours :)

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 2:51 PM

Moff

Wow, DS cacti? To be honest, I didn't even realize that North Africa had cacti lol...I thought it was just a North American thing. Has anyone seen war footage with a cactus in it?

Nope, nobody here, but us cacti... 

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 4:41 PM

Moff

Wow, DS cacti? To be honest, I didn't even realize that North Africa had cacti lol...I thought it was just a North American thing. Has anyone seen war footage with a cactus in it?

Per Rudy Maxa's  episode on Mexico City and Ixtapa:
Rudy made a "point" of mentioning that the Spanish exported cactus to North Africa after conquering Central and South America.Whistling
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 4:44 PM

stikpusher

Moff

Wow, DS cacti? To be honest, I didn't even realize that North Africa had cacti lol...I thought it was just a North American thing. Has anyone seen war footage with a cactus in it?

Nope, nobody here, but us cacti... 

Wonder if any Americans from the south west US scraped off the needles on any cactus , sliced 'em up and fried 'em over a fire? Hmm..........
..................and I think I may just build an old  kit to look like the paint job on the vehicle in that picture............Surprise
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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 7, 2015 11:20 AM

I bet that if the opportunity arose, some GI who knew how to cook it up, did so.  That paint job is typical of 1st Armored Division stuff in Tunisia in 1942/1943- OD with yellow stars & markings and mud smeared on the OD to better blend into the local terrain.

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, May 7, 2015 1:40 PM

A few more:

Thanks Sprue-ce Goose for digging out that tidbit of info - it explains a lot.  It looks to be the prickly pear cactus, so was most likely introduced to the region for cultivation purposes, and still is today a part of the Tunisian economy. 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, May 7, 2015 2:51 PM

Sure is a lot of cactus there..........Surprise

Wonder if any Germans were whistling or singing this tune from the 1930s while over there.......:

 " Mein kleiner grüner Kaktus " 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3xcC2H4NoY

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Posted by Byrden on Thursday, May 7, 2015 3:03 PM

timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com/.../18_00584826.jpg

That's the Kasserine Pass off in the distance.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, May 7, 2015 3:07 PM

stikpusher

I bet that if the opportunity arose, some GI who knew how to cook it up, did so.  That paint job is typical of 1st Armored Division stuff in Tunisia in 1942/1943- OD with yellow stars & markings and mud smeared on the OD to better blend into the local terrain.

Thanks.
Must have been quite popular there as I saw some photos of German vehicles done up in a similar manner
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, May 7, 2015 3:09 PM

advancing through that terrain must have been a painful experience even when not under fire..........Surprise

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