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Panzer Wheel Colors
Posted by pilotjohn on Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:41 PM

All;

I am working on a Tiger I and was wondering if they painted the inside of the wheels in the exterior color?  I am thinking about the more forward wheels as seen from the opposite side/bottom of the tank.  Were the insides of the wheels left in the Panzer grey or over-sprayed with the dunkelgelb top coat?  Not sure it makes that much of a difference.  Thanks.

John

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:13 PM
Pretty sure that with the last Tiger I built, I had found references which indicated that the inner portions of the roadwheels was left in red oxide primer, so that was the way I modelled things. I don't recall if it was for the specific tank I was portraying (Kurt Sowa's mid-production, turret 222 during June of '44 outside Villers Bocage) or if I had read that it was pretty much standard practice at this time period.
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Posted by Ixion on Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:20 PM

Theoretically, subassemblies like wheels, sprockets, etc. were prepainted before assembly. So paint them the same as your base color, especially if it is an early production. That said, everyone by now has seen the color photo of the Panzer III coming out of the river with red-oxide spare wheels mounted on the fenders. If you look on other forums, you will find evidence of both sides of the discussion. Confused

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, July 1, 2015 7:10 PM

EDIT: lemme check on this....

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Posted by Ixion on Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:01 PM

Wait a minute...are you talking about a Tiger originally painted dark grey, then repainted dark yellow in '43 and whether the inner wheels would be repainted as well?

If this was a field repaint, surely they didn't bother repainting the inner-facing surfaces of the wheels.

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Posted by pilotjohn on Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:25 PM

I am building Dragon's Early Tiger I from July 1943.  I don't know enough history to know whether that would be a field paint with the dunkelgelb and green stripping or if it was factory.

John

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Posted by Ixion on Wednesday, July 1, 2015 10:04 PM

1331 was Wittmann's tank, Whether it was one of the first 10 delivered to LSSAH in Dec 42, I don't know....yet. (I would think so, as Wittmann was already a star by then). It would also have been repainted from grey. 5 more were delivered in May 43, (which would be factory yellow). The 5 delivered in July came in too late for Zitadelle.

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Posted by waynec on Saturday, July 4, 2015 9:54 PM

hi John

i would paint them the base coat color with maybe a dark rust powder rub for some color and contrast but i tend to be a bit artsy with my builds. if i were overspraying in the field i would just paint the outers. and don't do multi color on the road wheels. i know there are pics out there of real vehicles BUT a rotating multi color wheel creates a kaleidoscope  effect that attracts the eye.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 5, 2015 1:35 AM

There is one thing I find odd about the Germans not painting the inside of road wheels the exterior colour. The Germans painted the underside of the hull the exterior colour, a couple of years ago someone poste a pic of a Panther hull on a huge jig which rotated it to be painted. If they go to that much effort to do the hull, why not the wheels.

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Posted by OldGoat on Sunday, July 5, 2015 7:36 AM

If I remember correctly during restoration of the Bovington Tiger it was found that interior of road wheels were gray and red oxide primer. Remember this tank was gray until repainted for Africa.

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Posted by pilotjohn on Sunday, July 5, 2015 9:36 PM

Waynec;

I never thought about that until now.  Yes, that would seem to due anything but help hide the thank.  Good point.

John

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Posted by pilotjohn on Sunday, July 5, 2015 9:37 PM

Bish;

That is a good point also.  I am going to paint them the base color.

John

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