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Iron Man current issue
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:14 PM
Folks, i thought about posting this in off-topic, but then i decided that i would put it here...
i was at the news stand and for some reason (call it intuition, maybe ?) i bought a copy of this comic which i haven't looked at for awhile.
inside there's some interesting stuff, including some discussion about the morality of designing and building weapons systems and other military hardware and a little sequence that features some WWII era tank action... kind of weird synchronicity considering some of the recent discussion like " Why German Armor "and "Moral High Ground" threads .
just thought i'd mention it...
does the iron man suit count as an afv ?Wink [;)]
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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:44 PM
Iron Man is my favorite Marvel hero bar none! He's not an AFV he's a force of nature! Tongue [:P] Cool post frostygirl! Cool [8D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:06 PM
well, at least one person thought it was interesting ! Big Smile [:D]
glad u enjoyed it, Woody !
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:53 PM
Considering that Super Heroes (and as such the comic writers and illustrators) use force to counter force, I'd say if any of them question military hardware it would be like the pot calling the kettle black.
By the way, my favorite was also Iron Man... maybe it's an armor thing.

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Posted by wildwilliam on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:16 PM
i must admit that Shellhead was not one of my favorite Avengers in my comic buying days. It was always Cap for me. Big Smile [:D]

but i have a better appreciation for Tony Stark as an adult.
not even sure where to look for comics around here.
but i will keep my eye out.

thanks, Frosty!
Ironman should be quite popular on this forum.

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Posted by erush on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:18 PM
Sorry if you're feeling lonely there Frosty. It's just that I don't remember Iron Man from my comic book days so I think he was after my time...and I'm dating myself, aren't I?!?! Tongue [:P]

I think you would classify a man in an armor suit as an AFP?? Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:46 PM
Frosty: I don't think good 'ol shellhead can be considered an AFV. I think APC is more suitable (BTW not Armored Personnel Carrier) - Armored Personal Costume. He-he-he.

I used to love Ironman. Loved the Avengers, too,

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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:41 PM
Frostygirl if you like Iron Man, you might look for some old issues of X-O Manowar. Not unlike Iron Man and a good read to boot! Wink [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:08 PM
Erush...I'm 42 and still remember reading Iron man from my younger days. I even remember the old cartoon show that was filmed like a comic strip...you know, actors spoke the script for the characters while a still picture was presented on screen and after a few seconds the picture changed. Really dramatic shots where when the camera was zoomed in, and turned slightly, onto the one shot to give the impression of movement. Each day it was a different super hero, Iron Man, The Hulk, Thor, Captain America, etc. Ahh, those were the daysTongue [:P]

I even rember the first suit of armour Ironman had, which looked rather, err cruddyBlush [:I]! Iron man was a ' dark hero' in those days, Frosty...is he still portrayed that way?

Sorry WW, Captain America didn't do it for me. When it came to comics, I was more the Thor (something about cracking skulls with a 30lb lump hammer instead of a super frisbie), X-men (the original series where you only had Cyclops, Angel, Dr X, etc, and they wore those really awful baggy yellow and blue threads) and Ironman type person. I did have a secret leaning toward DC comic's The Green Lantern, but that might have been because of the female character (Black Cat?) that was often drawn in them. Hey, I was a teenage boy then, give me a break[:0]

Thanks for bringing this one up Frosty. I love getting a little nostalgic.

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Posted by erush on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:49 PM
Ok, well Pete, I guess he must not have been too popular when I was around or the area I was in and I just missed it, or don't remember Tongue [:P]. You're a few years older than me so he'd have been around.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:25 PM
Eric

Yeah old Iron pants was a bit dark for a lot of people, so he wasn't as popular. The link this thread has to this Forum is that there would be no Ironman if there had been no Vietnam war. Vietnam was a bit unpopular in some places Tongue [:P] so this might have had something to do with it. This also gives you a lead to how old the character is.

For the full drum on Ironman including his 'Nam experience' and pics go to:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/ironman.htm

By the way, Black Sabbath had a hit song "Iron Man" way back, but maybe someone with a bit more Heavy Metal knowledge can confirm if there is any connection LOL

Anyone out there planning on doing a flattened M48 or M60 as a result of the Hulk's usual rampage against the military[:0]

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Posted by renarts on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:24 PM
comics have always been used as a means of propaganda by both hawks and doves. Some glorify it, others condem it in their own way. They are a real social watermark and cultural icon and reflect societys struggle with social issues.

Not to mention they are a great form of mindless entertainment too. Remember Turok and Andar (dinosaur killing indians...)?

What was the comic book series that the storyline was a Lee tank that was haunted and the ghosts of confederate soldiers would help out the crew?

Mike
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:39 AM
Mike,
I'm chuffed that I can contribute something to a worthwhile subject.I'm 41 and I remember reading "The Haunted Tank",with a commander who was called Jeb who used to talk to the ghost of a confederate general,except from what I recall the other crewmembers couldn't see the ghost and they all thought their boss was a little nutty.
Then as the series rolled on they went from the Lee to a succession of different tanks,a Pershing as I recall and finally a cannibalised tank made from bits and pieces of other tanks which seemed capable of annihilating anything the Germans [and Japanese] could throw at it.It was a good comic.How about "Sergeant Rock"? Does anyone remember that?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:21 AM
Iron Man was indeed my favorite of the Marvel crowd (In the cartoons that Petbat referred to, the voice of Iron Man was that of John Vernon, better known as dean Wormer in Animal House. Some of these cartoons were released on VHS a few years back and I grabbed the Iron Man issue. Wish I'd gotten the others) My favorite Marvel villain was another man in an iron mask: Dr Doom.
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Posted by wildwilliam on Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:23 AM
Petbat,
i was always a "Marvel Man" as a boy. :-)
i thought the DC characters were all lightweight goody-two shoes.
(i believe Batman was not in his dark phase at the time)

Spiderman was my favorite.
probably because Peter Parker was just a guy, really.
college, day job, idiot boss. things we could all relate to.
even the police thought he was a bad guy and were always taking potshots at him!

i liked your link for Shellhead, but what language was that translated from?
either that or there are words and phrases in the wrong order or paragraph.
it was harder to make sense out of than one of my posts !! Tongue [:P] Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:41 AM
I thought about this last night on my way home from work (believe it or not) and if I had to hang out with any super heroes, I think I'd choose 'Super Girl'. Iron MAN, bat MAN, super MAN, Captain America... Man(?) would come in a distant forth behind Bat Girl and Wonder Woman.

hmm.

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Posted by Build22 on Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:19 AM


Iron man was cool, Red and yellow armor. I think he had a TV show as well. Only thing is, Ozzie and Black Sabbath stole a little thunder from the marvel comics.



Ron,

I'm with you. But, is that comic Wonder Woman or TV Wonder Woman ?




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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Build22


Ron,

I'm with you. But, is that comic Wonder Woman or TV Wonder Woman ?


TV... but she'd better not use that whip (or was it a lasso??) of truth on me!Wink [;)] ... it might become a scene out of 'Liar Liar'!

The Haunted Tank! Yeah, the commander used to chat with Jeb Stuart, who alway gave him all sorts of sage advise. When I was a kid, I dreamed of having one of those wierd helmets with the doughnut pad on it and now I have two in my collection! I like the way the tanks always got their main guns bent up when they were knocked out.

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Posted by Build22 on Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:33 AM

Hysterical !!!

I know exactly what you are talking about. Wow!! [wow] Laugh [(-D]



I still haven't used all the contact lenses I bought from that commercial Whistling [:-^]


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Posted by renarts on Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:54 PM
thanks,
haunted tank..... yeah those were the days. I was also a big fan of Sgt. Rock. I used to get, Sgt. Rock, Turok & Andar, and usually one other from my grandmother every release date......who ever ordered army men out of the back, or one of those submarines you could sit in?

Mike
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 8:43 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wildwilliam

i must admit that Shellhead was not one of my favorite Avengers in my comic buying days. It was always Cap for me. Big Smile [:D]
ed.

well, then u'll be happy to know that Winghead makes a guest appearance in the same issue ! Big Smile [:D]
in fact, Iron Man and Captain America are on a mission to rescue a downed sub together... and they have a great conversation while doing it ... u gotta check it out !
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat
Iron man was a ' dark hero' in those days, Frosty...is he still portrayed that way?
Thanks for bringing this one up Frosty. I love getting a little nostalgic.

yep, stark's still dark.... must be an armor thing, i guess! Wink [;)]
glad u liked the post !
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat

The link this thread has to this Forum is that there would be no Ironman if there had been no Vietnam war. Vietnam was a bit unpopular in some places Tongue [:P] so this might have had something to do with it. This also gives you a lead to how old the character is.
For the full drum on Ironman including his 'Nam experience' and pics go to:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/ironman.htm

cool link, petbat ! i even got to use my 'english to english' translation skills !!! Wink [;)]
and if u think Shellhead is old, remember that Cap goes all the way back to WWII... and he still looks the same age somehow (maybe he uses oil of olay ?).
thanx,
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Posted by wildwilliam on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:23 AM
Steve Rogers (Captain America), benefits both from the 'super soldier serum' and from having been frozen in an iceberg for some number of years.
both good ways to slow the aging process, i bet!
Big Smile [:D]

Frosty,
thanks for the tip. i will definitely have to look for it now.
Smile [:)]

Poniatowski,
i didn't want to 'hang out' w/ the super heroes, i wanted to BE one !!!
that's why you had to love Spiderman. it seemed almost possible.
Blush [:I]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:24 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Poniatowski

I thought about this last night on my way home from work (believe it or not) and if I had to hang out with any super heroes, I think I'd choose 'Super Girl'. Iron MAN, bat MAN, super MAN, Captain America... Man(?) would come in a distant forth behind Bat Girl and Wonder Woman.
hmm.
Ron.

Wonder Woman rules (of course she does, she's an amazon princess !!!)....Wink [;)]
how many other superheroes look good in a tiara, for starters ?! Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:37 AM
Wildwilliam,
We used to play 'Superman' on some summer afternoons following the show. Tie a bath towel around your neck and you were ready to head for the garage roof to log some flight hours before the neighborhood Moms saw us!

Ron.

However, since several hard landings convinced me that I'd never be a super hero, I'll still hang out with Super Girl... maybe she could fly me to Germany for Oktoberfest!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wildwilliam

Steve Rogers (Captain America), benefits both from the 'super soldier serum' and from having been frozen in an iceberg for some number of years.
both good ways to slow the aging process, i bet!
Big Smile [:D]
ed.

maybe i'll suggest the 2nd option the next time i hear one of mom's friends talking about botox or whatever !
"what u really need is to find a nice iceberg !"LOL !!!!
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Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:47 AM
What's this?
Are we ranking our favorite superheroes?
OK:
Hulk
Thing
Iron Man
Savage Dragon

There we go!
That oughta be enough to get this thread kicked over to the "Off Topic" forum!Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 10:12 AM
brian-sama:
i think we r the total rulers / lords of off-topic digression...
i like to think of it as proof of an active mind, myself..Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
LOL again...
best wishes,
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Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, November 14, 2003 10:22 AM
I'd like to think that too, Frosty!

Oh hey, I used to love Man-Thing, too. Anybody remember him? Marvel's version of Swamp Thing (or vice-versa, I dunno).
Very dark and weird storyline.

Here we go, off to Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic] land...Wink [;)]
~Brian
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