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Panther vs Tiger I

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Panther 44

Ron,
I never realized there was a possibility that any traverse would be manual
Well, that's why I like these posts, I always pick up some knowledge.
Regards,
Joe


Even modern tanks such as the Abrams have a manual traverse mode. This can be used as a back-up if the power goes out, or if you're doing some maintenance and need to traverse or elevate just a bit and don't feel like turning on the master. We use it on the Paladin when we're cleaning electrical connections between the hull and turret. I think it's pretty safe to say that if a tank has power/manual traverse and elevation, the crew uses power as much as possible.

Smile [:)]Ron.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Erock68

Hmmm,

Good subject!

I would choose the Tiger for open terrain, where I could fire from distances and scat. Keep 'em moving!

For close quarters battles: city streets, towns and so forth, the Panther would be my choice.


i'd pick the oposite of you , the panther has much thiner side and rear armor , something that is bad in a urban enviroment where you're much more likely to get ambushed by infantry and you have limited room to maneuver (in ww2 era european cities anyway). the panther's gun is better at long range than the tiger's (higher MV and better optics). in the open you also have more room to maneuver to keep the front of your tank at the enemy
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Posted by Panther 44 on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 4:34 PM
ridleusmc,
Maybe I didn't phrase that question correctly. I mean if you had to be in a Panther facing a Tiger1 or a Tiger1 facing a Panther, which would you choose? It's one against the other.
Regards,
Joe
















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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Friday, November 21, 2003 12:34 AM
Panther 44,

In that case... Tiger. The only reason why is the 88.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 21, 2003 4:33 AM
There is something to keep in mind though: the Panther came out after the Tiger had been in service. It was the response to the challenge presented by the T-34, so it had already benefited from battlefield experience and newer technology. After all, they eventually 'replaced' the Tiger I with the Tiger II, because the big cat was already showing its age. Given a lighter, faster tank, the Germans managed to pack the same amount of armour (roughly in the 100mm range IIRC), and with a 75mm gun, they managed to give it a more powerful weapon with a longer, flatter trajectory. Clearly, the Panther had an edge simply because it was the newer vehicle. Of course this was after all the initial kinks had been worked out, lol.

On the other hand, maybe reputation does have something to do with it. The Tiger was the only true heavy tank with a devastating gun/armour combination during that time (1942) when the heaviest thing the Allies could throw at it was the KV-1/2 (which I feel was undergunned for its class) or, worse, the Sherman or the Grant/Lee in North Africa. By the time the Panther came out, the Germans were already fighting an uphill battle, so the Panther was forced to fight defensively for most of its career. Its performance (or non-performance) at Kursk probably didn't help either.

I would personally prefer the Panther, again, simply because it was the newer tank-- just never mind the large shot trap just over the glacis plate.

Anyway, that's my two cents.
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