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Interior progress (New Pic Added)
Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:05 PM
Here is my Sunday afternoon project. Just wanted to get some opinions before I went any further with it. This is for Acadamy's M3 Stuart Honey. It's the first time I have done an interior for a tank so I was basically going blind with just a few not so good pics. Any comment are welcome as always on how to make it any better. I have'nt done any weathering on it yet so those ideas are really welcome.Thanks.




Ok I tried out the tip about using a scouring pad to get paint to look like it's chipped and scrapped. I think I need a bit more practice at it but here is how it came out for me this time. Camera seemd to be having a bad day today and would not get a good close up, so this is the best shot I have for now.

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Posted by ILuv3ggs on Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:10 PM
i can't see the picture Sad [:(]
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:11 PM
Sorry Chris can't see the pics. Geocities do not allow linking. This is also my problem before as I have a webpage there. Better try Ron's Gallery.

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Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:14 PM
Thanks Dwight just figured that out. Worked the first time I tried. Not having much luck witht the web page thing. Can't get into the anglefire one and geocities won't link. So i went ahead and left it with good ol Ron.
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:35 PM
That's more like it. Looks really really good so far.

Don't forget to keep those pics commin'.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:55 PM
Looks real nice. I'm considering doing an interior soon so give us on info on fit , etc.
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Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:14 PM
Allright can do. So far with this one I have not seen any problems with fit other than a slight gap between the back wall and the horizontal sides of the bottom hull ( don't know the technical term) but it don't seem to affect the fit of the top. Would be nice if there were an engine in the back though. There are a whole lot of tiny parts that can be a pain to get into place majority of those are on the outside. Some more detail on the interior would have been nice since the only thing that I have not put into this one yet is the ammo cans. I noticed a few things mising in some pics that I did find but those may be a different version. So far I am happy with this kit and should have the turret interior up some time this week.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:47 PM
looks better than my stuart so far.Disapprove [V] keep up the good work! i am eager to see what you do with the turret interior. are you going to try to change it, or no?

also, here is one more link with some pics
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/lighttanks/LightTanks.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:51 PM
Looking good LQ.

I usually paint the interior a primer red-brown colour and then cloud spray off white to give the impression of depth. A light wash will help bring out the details too.

Make a little square out of a Scotchbrite scourer pad, and dip it onto a little metallic grey paint so that the paint only sticks to the parts of the scotchbrite that stick out (ie do not dip it completely) so it is not going to drip. Then gently push the scotchbrite onto areas where paint chips will occur - floor, stowage bins, supports, etc) You will be amazed at the result (will e-mail you a pic of what it looks like 'cause I can't link pics here yet).

PS. The reason your kit interior looks different to the pictures is because of different versions. Acadamy just used the standard M3 interior instead of changing it for the Honey. The British Honey is very diferent to the kit, sorry to say. The round stowage is completely wrong, the Brits didn't use the turret basket, etc. (Had similar probs with the Acadamy Achilles that I am building as it was based on the M10 interior. Still procrastinating about casting main gun rounds because Acadamy only give you 5 spares and a heap of canisters for the round racks, but the British didn't use canisters, they just placed the rounds in modified racks!)

Keep the pics coming. Love your web site too!
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Posted by mark956 on Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:27 PM
Thank you for sharing Chris. Really good. Can't wait to see the finished model.
mark956
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Posted by shermanfreak on Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:28 PM
Regardless of the faults ...... nice work on the interior so far Chris.
Very clean build going so far.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by animal on Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:29 PM
Excellent suggestions on the paint and weathering petbat. I like the use of the scotchbrite pad. I am going to have to try that one
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Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:37 PM
Edog - thanks for the link. I'll be sticking to the instructions. Went ahead with making it a US version anyway.

Peter- Thanks for all the info. Now I have something new to try with the next int. I do. The scouring pad sounds like a great little trick. Dfinatly have to give it a try. All I can say for the picture is WOW. That is awesome looking. That is exactly what I was needing to get some god idea of how to go about weathering this on the inside. The rounds are pretty incredible to. Gald you like the site, it's still a long ways from how I want it and anglefire won't let me hardley get in to work on it.

Thanks to everyone else for the compliments.
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Posted by erush on Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:01 PM
That's coming along nicely Chris!! You're getting better with each one!! Keep up the good work Big Smile [:D]

Eric
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:13 PM
looks good to me, but I'm a poor one to ask, I've never done an interior.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2003 5:47 AM
........where is ron's gallery....jeffl
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Monday, November 24, 2003 7:08 AM
http://rongeorge.com/modules/Gallery/models

to login the name is newfsm and the password is Models

your first post, welcome to FSM!!!!
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Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, November 24, 2003 8:13 AM
Dang! I just get the ol' X...
~Brian
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Posted by lizardqing on Monday, November 24, 2003 9:20 AM
Sorry Brian. got it fixed. For some reason I could'nt get into Ron's site to fix it but I could now get into my web site and put it there., never get into both at the same time.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, November 24, 2003 10:52 AM
Now I can see!
And it looks great. Man, I'm glad I didn't have to fight in one of those! Talk about tight!
~Brian
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, November 24, 2003 11:12 AM
Coming along real nice Chris, heck you may finish before the Panther build starts! Great tips Peter.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2003 11:26 AM
Chris,

The interior work looks great! Too bad Academy can't get a Stuart interior right though. If that's the M3 and not the A1, don't use the turret basket... it wasn't on the actual tank. As a matter of fact, Academy really screwed up big time on those interiors.Banged Head [banghead]. I'd imagine they listed the seat color as brown (haven't looked at my instructions) when they were black on the real tank. Not your fault though, I'm sure we all expect better out of Academy, especially after the nice Tiger I and US Tank Destroyers they've done.

Keep up the great builds!

Ron.

PS I can scan a bunch of good Stuart interior shots (the right interior) for you if you'd like and e them to you.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by lizardqing on Monday, November 24, 2003 11:45 AM
Yup they said the seat s were kaki. So the turret basket needs to be left off. No big loss as all the detail it has is two chairs. So with out the turret basket the gun would still get mounted the same and I would assume they would stand on the tranny housing to fire it. The seats are not a problem just another coat of paint. I'll take a few of those pics that might be able to help me get it right ,thanks. Anything on the exterior that needs to be adjusted any? I'm doing the US version. At least it sounds like the Tiger is nice, I plan on building that one day.

Tigerman- It ight be done by the time the Panther begins. Got a rain today and a holiday and possibly more rain days this week, lots of building time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2003 1:25 PM
I will scan the photos after work tomorrow and e them to you. Yeah, the drive shaft tunnel had a pad on it for seating, as well as a couple on the ammo boxes (different than Academy's). The TC also had a fold down seat mounted to the turret wall. The crew would stand on the floor and do the loading and gunning. Nice thing about it was that there was room to stretch out and take a nap!
I've had the Academy Stuarts for some time now, but haven't started building them. I look at them and think of all the work they'll need and just kinda move on down the shelf.
Like I said Chris, your work looks great as usual. For exterior shots, I'd take a look at either the Squadron book or try to get a copy of Hunnicutts from the library system if you don't already have one.

Ron.
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Posted by wipw on Monday, November 24, 2003 1:39 PM
Nice job Chris. I think it looks pretty cool. And, sounds like you're enjoying the build. That's the big thing!

Bill
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Posted by lizardqing on Monday, November 24, 2003 1:54 PM
That would be great Ron. Sounds like a nice chance to try some decent scratchbuilding. The pads sound like something that could be done. Still don't look like there to much more room to stretch out in this little thing though.

Bill- It is a pretty cool little build. Kind of a nice change from the big tanks. Plus from the looks of it get to try out some scratchbuilding someting other than tarps and netting.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2003 2:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lizardqing2

Still don't look like there to much more room to stretch out in this little thing though.


The backs of the hull seats come off and can (could) be laid on the floor to extend the bottom seat (which itself was almost at floor level!). From that, with a little padding from packs, jackets and such, a nice bed could be made! Remember, those guys were bone tired after a day of field training (or combat) and any horizontal surface could serve as a 'nice' bed!Wink [;)]

Big Smile [:D] Ron.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:26 PM
...........mutli..thank you for the gallery link...jeffl
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:29 PM
Looking better, Chris.

One question though. Are you going to fix the upper and lower hull or leave it free to be able to see the inside?

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Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:07 PM
Good question Dwight. I have been thinking about that and since this is the first interior I have done I did'nt know what the usual way one might go about that. I thought about leaving it free but it also has very large hatches that allow alot of the interior to be seen. Most likely leaving it free though.
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