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AMT Hogan's Heroes Willy's Jeep

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AMT Hogan's Heroes Willy's Jeep
Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:42 PM
Hi guys,
I'm still new to the armour and military models arena. I'm mostly sci fi and mecha [which i like to consider a form of armorBig Smile [:D] lol]. But any way i picked up the AMT Hogan's Heroe's Jeep to build for my dad for Christmas. He's retired military and we used to watch the show together when i was a kid. Anyway i was wondering if any of you guys have built it. Though i know it isn't exactly up to you guys "Tamiya" quality standards but i am impressed with it so far. It only lists two versions to build on the outside of the box. A "Hogan" versionand a custom "surry" version. [What the hell does "surry" mean anyway?] All in all when I opened the box i found an optional 50.cal to mount in the rear, a military style Tommy gun, an M1 rifle, and decals all so that you could also build a "more realistic" military version. The extra chrome wheels for the custom version are nice IMO and are nothing like the ugly "dated" hubcaps shown on the box. Anyway I was wondering if anyone had built one and I wanted any tips you can give on painting and assembly. Is it a flat olive drab or a semi gloss? Seat color brown,green? Frame color? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, November 27, 2003 8:17 AM
Howdy, MGM!
Sounds like an interesting kit. I've never seen it, and not really sure what kind of vehicle it is, but if you want to build it just like the vehicle in the show, I'd say check out the show! It's bound to be available on DVD or video somewhere.
Other than that, checking other references of similar vehicles might be helpful.
Or, just paint it as you remember it! I'm sure your father would have the same memories.
Sounds like a good project. I'm sure your father's going to appreciate it!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 27, 2003 8:25 AM
Where in the German POW camp did Hogan or any of his Hero's have a chance to use a Willys Jeep? I don't remember, sorta like Sgt. Schultze...I see nothing...I know nothing!

Glenn
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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:07 AM
The Jeep kit is really not representative of a vehicle used on the show. It was just marketed during the Hogan's Heroes craze. It started out life as a regular military Jeep that had either the .50 cal or the recoilless rifle. The Jeep is a Korean War era Jeep and can represent the CJ-2 (Civilian Jeep). Someone e-mailed me the original instructions to build a military style Jeep.

Some of the Hogan's Heroes Jeeps only came with 4 vinyl tires and no spare. If you contact them via e-mail, they will send you the 5th tire.

BTW, I think surry is a type of buggy. I remember watching the old "Oklahoma" musical and one of the songs is "Surry with a Fringe on Top".
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:41 AM
Yes this does have the rubber spare tire. And guess what the "surry" version uses an optional "fringed' canvas top. The surry version is really gaudy looking! Yeah, I don't think Hogan ever drove a jeep in the show because he was always either "on the yard" or in the stalag. I got it at Hobby Lobby for only $11.99! i would have bought it much sooner if i had known it hat the 50. cal and extra weapons! I see now on a corner of the box it does display an armed version of the jeep. Also now that i look at the sprues there are additional parts [exhaust, bucket seats w/t racing style seatbelts, a hood scoop, fender flares, and a roll cage!] to create that civillian jeep C-J as well. This explains the extra set of nice deep chrome wheels. This is the kind of crap i hate though. If a company REALLY wants to sell a kit they should list all of the extra goodies you get on the outside of the box. All modelers love extras and you would think they would take advantage of that fact. in fact a modeler may even buy more than one of a kit to make more than one version [Lord knows i have!]. Anyaway this kit will make an excellent addition to my dad's growing collection of armour and vehicles. My dad already has the Beatle Baily die cast jeep he ordered on display and this will look great beside it!
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:18 PM
The "surry" version would represent the ones used in Asia and the Phillippines as a taxi. You do also see these gaudy versions in South America.
Watch "Flight of the Intruder" to see some.
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Posted by jeepman on Thursday, November 27, 2003 1:44 PM
If you want an accurate 1/24 scale jeep get the Hasegawa one.It has a 30 cal machinegun,engine and driver.The Hogans Hero jeep has a ton of errors.But it is good for practicing your skills.If you are doing the military version paint in flat olive drab with khaki or khaki drab seats.Happy modeling.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:55 PM
What types of errors does it have? I know nothing about jeeps. I prefer WWII bombers and P-38 fighters and modern armour.

Oh man! I just started assembling this thing at work. 99% of the numbers on the sprues don't even match the instructions! What's worse is that many different parts on same sprue share the SAME number! the instructions are no more than a guide. i now understand why someone said above that someone had to send them instructions for the military version. There's plent of extra crap that isn't even listed in the instructions [which in and of itself is not totally unusual]. some mentioned a version of this jeep with a recoiless rifle. It's in there and what i think are the ammo tubes for it. [at least that is the only thing I can assume these short cylinders are. The fit on the engine parts isn't that great but but with all my b*tching aside I'm still enjoying the build though!LOL Once a modeler, always a modeler!Big Smile [:D]
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 28, 2003 8:31 AM
have you seen the 1/6th scale Hogans Heros figures theres three of them i think there by Sideshow?
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Posted by jeepman on Friday, November 28, 2003 1:23 PM
Martian,my comments above still stand.A few of the errors are 1-interior has a storage box for under the passenger side front seat.These were only used on post WW2 jeeps.2-the interior has ribs molded on the topside of the fenders and the rear floor.Again these were not on the WW2 jeeps only m38a1 and later korean war jeeps.3-the rear panel is pluged with an insert with large locating lugs.Get rid of the lugs,the panel was flush mounted.4-the rear seat backrest cushion should be only 1/3 its height with a gap between it and the bottom seat cushion.There are more errors large and small but am not at home were my copy of this kit is.I would suggest if you really want to know more about the WW2 jeep you visit www.g503.com website it has facts and pictures of these along with several fullsize restoration articles.Oh almost forgot the tires are civilian style offroad not narrow military tread design.happy modeling.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Friday, November 28, 2003 10:42 PM
No I haven't seen the 1/6th scale figures but I'm sure my dad would love those too! Thanks for the link Jeepman! i'mmnot sure what you meant byt he "lugs" though. It's probably too late anyway considering I've already glued that back panel on with plastic wield!LOL
Yeah i noticed that the tires were too wide since they have to also fit the chrome custom wheels. I have been looking over those pics on the site. Should the engine block and frame be olive drab? Black? One drab and one black? There are also some pics of grey engine blocks and trainy. Any suggestions on drivetrain and frame colors?
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by jeepman on Saturday, November 29, 2003 9:10 AM
Martian,paint your frame olive drab same as the real ones.the engine block was olive drab for the ones built by Willys during the war.The gray painted blocks and trans missions were used in the ones built by Ford during the war.the Willys jeeps in WW2 were called the model MB.The Ford built ones were called the GPW model.Paint your drivetrain olive drab also.As you can tell by my site name I have a thing about the WW2 Jeep.Ive built them in both 1/35 ,1/24 and 1/25 scale.Recently completed converting a 1/25 scale AMT Dukes of Hazzard Daisys CJ5 jeep into a military M38A1 used in Korea and early Vietnam.I do not have anyway to post pictures or I would.I would advise you once you are comfortable with your skills to try a Tamiya 1/35 scale Jeep kit.Great kit engineering,easy to assemble and very accurate version of the WW2 Jeep.Happy modeling!
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:58 PM
Thanks Jeepman! Your site has been an excellent resource! Also thanks for all the other info as well. i'll have to give that 1/35 jeep a shot because I'm also building Tamiya's M2a2 Bradley for my dad. He conned me into building it by buying me an expensive sci-fi kit and asked me to buid him the Bradley. Little did he know he has now "awakened a sleeping dragon." My addiction was sci-fi armor and starships with the occasional WWII plane, but now i have built 3 1/43 scale tanks just for practice for his Bradly! Yeah, the armor bug has bitten me.LOL
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by wipw on Monday, December 1, 2003 11:30 AM
Welcome to the "Dark Side", Martin. Now you know why it's called that. It just keeps sucking us in further!!

Bill
Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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