Trumpeter 1/16 King tiger II build pics part 2 - Engine *updated*

Just wondering if you noticed the seam lines on the secondary parts?   Depending on how deep you want to go with this project, they'd be easier to remove at this point.

I've seen the seams disastermaster and taken care of them.

I will try and include some money in future photos.... on the understanding that it's my money and no-one elses!!!

snapdragonxxx wrote:

I've seen the seams disastermaster and taken care of them. I will try and include some money in future photos.... on the understanding that it's my money and no-one elses!!!

Glad to help. It's good to see change.

this is what forums are about. I've added 5 parts to the engine from the last photo and it looks different again!

The engine in this kit is a kit in itself!!!!

Time to get the paints out!

James

snapdragonxxx wrote:

I've seen the seams disastermaster and taken care of them. I will try and include some money in future photos.... on the understanding that it's my money and no-one elses!!!

Please don't use money as a guide to scale. Not everyone will know what size your currency is. A ruler with either inches or millimetres would be the best illustration.

I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I saw the kit back in November at Telford, on Ted Taylor's stand, and wondered how it would look built.  For those of you who don't know that name here is a link to his site... http://tedtaylor.hobbyvista.com/

For the huge size and amount of parts, you're flying on this one! It looks awesome so far. I'll keep a lookout for your next post.

-Brandon

OK,

I've got one of the cylinder heads on and it's taken me all morning - mind you I did have a movie going as well! I'll put pictures up later.

The engine assembly takes sections 15 to 18 in the instruction book and approx 185 parts! It really is a kit in itself.

I hope you're all enjoying my pics of the build. I must say that I'm much better at landscapes!

James

try this link for engine colours that maybe more accurate, and keep up the good work.

http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://tiger1.info.byrden.com/saumur/mayb/mot1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://tiger1.info.byrden.com/saumur/mayb/hl230.html&usg=__QDyBxnp2_4jfNHYepHkKNt-gn4U=&h=1157&w=773&sz=75&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=ZJd8fDL3rUuGVM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMaybach%2BHl230%2BP30%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Terry.

Thanks for the link Trerry.

After doing some reading round that site I have found out that the engine shown was specially painted for display to show the various components, such as electrical and cooling etc.

I'm going to stick with the steel etc colouring. As there is very few colour directions (they're practically none existant) it's make it up as you go along!

Now there is something that I have learnt from surfing that and other sites. Trumpeter must have been using the Bovington Tiger II for their R&D as in the build manual it says to paint the gun breech dark green - take a look through the manual. Now I have found out that the Bovington Tiger Tanks breeches were painted green by the british army during tests after capture. Normally they would be a ivory colour according to sites. I am using "SchnellbootWeisse" as my interior colour as I couldn't get an ivory kind of colour. Personally I think that a white colour would have been used as as I have a few bottles of this colour available ( I also have Italeri's Schnellboot hanging around part of my bench too).

James

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Mine just arrived! UPS tracker said delivery on the 29th so I had relegated to not getting this in time from Santa, but this morning I checked it on a whim and saw at 06:33 it was OUT FOR DELIVERY!

THANK YOU UPS! I wanted to hug the driver and his assistant but the neighbors were out and about and I didn't want them to think I was crazier than I already am!

Boss says no can open until tomorrow.......hey at least I have something to play with for the next 4 days!

Merry Christmas Joe

I fully expect to see your thoughs on here by tomorrow afternoon. Was it as heavy as you expected????

And SWMBO not letting you open it!!!! OOOOOH!!!!! What a stinker! Time must be crawling. At leat you've my review to gaze at!

Love to see some WIP from you

James

P.S. What a Christmas Pressie!!!!!

James we found some sites where it seems the engine block was painted......now its up to your own research... I certainly don't want to be misleading.

Joes one is still in the office because it was too big to bring to the pub on tuesday.

Terry

Here is a pic from the Littlefield restoration of a Panther which had the same Maybach engine as the KT. Littlefield supposedly does painstakling research to get all the details down pat, so....

Yeah any i seen  on internet have been painted.

Different greys.....

people may be needing to get in touch with books. the internet only offers so much.

Terry.

Thanks for all the info guys, but I think that I'm sticking with the steel colour.

James

Still looking forward to your progress. Should be a fine model. Enjoy the holidays.

Terry.

James

unlike the earlier HL 210, the cylinder block for the maybach HL 230 engine was cast iron. it was surely painted to prevent rust. the Littlefield restorations are pretty much on the money. From what I have read much of the actual components were shades of gray and grey-green--just as many pieces of machinery are painted in 'industrial colors' to this day. Only aluminum castings were left unpainted.

--------tread

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. And bare metal in that environment would go bronzy brown very quickly, aluminium would go white, and a good old painted block would get dirty. Its hard to type and eat turkey at the same time, ha..ha.. I hate turkey.

the operating environment of the engine would be very warm, greasy,oily and very wet,damp.

In the end its up to how James interprets what ever info is available to him.

I only speak from experience there.

Terry.

I do have two of these big kittens! I should have three, but  can get no response from modelers paradise who should be providing the third!

So I think that I will look at painting the second kits engine differently. I do really appreciate everyone's input.

I would also like to know what treadwell and firecaptains' take on this kit is.

James

Here's some more pics of the engine

I've also included a pic of the main parts that make up one of the cylinderhead and exhaust outlet. There are another couple of pieces to go on before they are fixed to the engine. I have some more painting to do, but until I work out what glue to use on sprues S & T I've more or less ground to a halt here and I shall either move on to the turret, or back to the lower hull.

So far all the parts fit well together, and despite severe lack of painting instructions in the assembly steps (very notable for most Trumpeter armour kits) and sometimes confusing assembly steps (try before glueing and make sure you've got all the parts on) It's a very pleasing, enjoyable and fun build. (This hobby is meant to be fun isn't it??) I've not encounted much in the way of "How the hell does this........" apart from a couple of pieces in the engine.

I am looking forwards to seeing what treadwell and Firecaptain make of this kit, which I personally rate as kit of the year!

James

James, I am toying with getting a second one (heck I have 3 T-34's!), as one would be built factory fresh and pristine and the second heavily worn, grimey and weathered.

One option for the one you are working on is just grime up the engine and its surroundings.

One dissapointment to me is those rubbery vinyl parts, especially the larger intake pipes. I am brainstorming as to what I can use as a substitute, and what it will entail to get that ribbed look to the tube.

I can almost here that Maybach engine firing up.   Heck, after seeing this I may even have to build one of my 1/16 T34's as a static model instead of R/Cing both of them.  I just have to build an engine now!

You and Tread's builds are inspiring. 

I think that those vinyl sprues are done on purpose so when it comes to fixing them round various aspects and holes round the engine and engine compartment you have some leeway and movement.

What glue do I need.... I'll give it a go!

Thanks PantherF for the kind words. These kits are (for me) really and worth the money. What I'd like to see now is there "Porsche" krupp initial turret on this hull, then the Jagdtiger and maybe if we're really lucky their German Geschützwagen Tiger für 17cm K72 kit scaled up to 1/16.

I'd also like them to do the Tiger 1 with Full interior, panther Panzer IV both long and short barrels and the Panzer III

It's not too much to ask is it???

James, be sure to degrease these parts thoroughly, and try cyanoacrolate (hot stuff, crazy glue) type of an adhesive sparingly, accelerator helps too.

Be patient, Trumpy will answer our requests, it's just going to take a while. I am sure the next release will be the Porsche turret for our KT (I will just get one of those!) as they get a little more bank for the bucks spent on the mold tooling.

I'll wait till the shopping and gift return madness subsides and hit the craft store next week to search for "stuff" to use in plumbing the beast and fiddly bits to use in other areas throughout the tank. Always surprising to find craft stuff that looks like something we can use for a handle, hole, line etc in all types of scale modeling.

Well James I have spent two days in work pulling one of these around and all I can say is I think is excellent. Great value for money.

Lke your progress so far.

Terry.

OH NOOOOOOOOO! not cyanowhatsit glue!!! AAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

Oh well. I suppose that I'll be spending most of my evening/night sat in the local A&E room with a maybach engine stuck to my fingers!

I'll freely admit to not being very good at scratchbuilding or weathering so I'll make do with what's in the kit. They must have done sprues S & T this way for a reason!

James