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Artillerie Schlepper 35(t) WIP Updated 19/09/09

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Artillerie Schlepper 35(t) WIP Updated 19/09/09
Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 4:30 PM

I could have called this: Sooooo many road wheels!!!!!!!!!!!!    Soooooo many rivets!!!!!!!!! Banged Head [banghead]


Here's what I've been up to since March, when I don't also work at home, which is more often than not lately.

I am converting CMK's TACAM to a Artillerie Schlepper 35(t).


I know, CMK has a Schlepper  Shock [:O] , I just didn't know when I started.  Tongue [:P]


There is so many things wrong with this kit, I don't even know where to start  Question [?]

Let's just say that you need lots of patience, and lots of putty. The majority of the rivets are not that crisp at all, for a vehicle covered with it. I slowly relaced most of them with other ones that I made by punching a #80 drill bit through a 0.005" Evergreen sheet. Less than 15% of those are keepers. The kit doesn't have any front fenders at all. I made these ones with aluminum foil using my Eduard Panzer 35(t) PE set as a template.

The running gear parts count is insane, but well detailled.

I wish I could say the same for the tracks in the kit:

After fiddling with them for a few days, I lost it and ordered a set of MKs:

It's a first for me, and it get addictive!  Takes a little while to get together, but the results are stunning! I already ordered a few other sets and I plan to order some more.


There's only a few things to do: replace the front hull rivets and add a few more elsewhere, remove some misplaced details and scratch them, scratch the jerry cans rack, make the tarp, add a few extra parts and scratch the towing bar. I hope to get it done before I return to work!

Comments are welcome!

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:19 PM
Hey GT! Nice to see you're still able to get in some bench time and this is definitely an "odd-ball" project! I've just started reading my Spielberger 35t/38t and Variants today as a matter of fact. Look forward to your progress. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:16 PM

Thanks Bill, I have been trying to squeeze in as much bench time as possible, still not enough for my taste though. I also had to cut on my forum time.......

Hey, would you happen to have other pics of this one in your book, especially of the towing bar? That would be awesome!  

 

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:03 PM
 Gun Tech wrote:

Hey, would you happen to have other pics of this one in your book, especially of the towing bar? That would be awesome!  

Unfortunately no...it only has the same three photos you've already posted. As a side note, this book should really be labelled "Czech Military Manufactures and their Variants 1920-1945" since over 1/3 of the book deals with softskins and non-Pz35 or Pz38 vehicles. Smile [:)]

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Posted by mg.mikael on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:07 PM
Sorry to hear this conversion is being such a bear. Nevertheless it looks like your making good progress, and I can't wait to see it finished!Thumbs Up [tup]Cool [8D]

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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Posted by Gun Tech on Thursday, December 25, 2008 2:41 PM

 mg.mikael wrote:
Sorry to hear this conversion is being such a bear. Nevertheless it looks like your making good progress, and I can't wait to see it finished!Thumbs Up [tup]Cool [8D]

 

Thanks!   I can't wait to see it completed too lol Laugh [(-D]         Maybe I'll dig up a Dragon kit from the stash next, they look faster to build.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Panther F on Friday, December 26, 2008 8:12 AM

Although it's tough going, I think it's a great subject to build!  Hang in there, it's looking very good so far.

Where do you guys find such unusual kits or conversions for these kits?

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, December 26, 2008 6:33 PM
 Panther F wrote:

Although it's tough going, I think it's a great subject to build!  Hang in there, it's looking very good so far.

Where do you guys find such unusual kits or conversions for these kits?

Thanks!        I found this kit in a Hobby Shop in Barrie, Ont, Canada. I also found the Panzer 35(t) kit cheap on E-bay.      I don't know if there is any conversion kits available for this family of tanks, so my conversion is scratch-made. CMK does produce this variant though, I just didn't wanted to buy it when I had something suitable to build it.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by treadwell on Friday, December 26, 2008 7:43 PM

JeanBig Smile [:D]

nice to see you posting a new build-- and a very agressive conversion to boot!--I wish I could say I am familiar to a large extent with the 35(t)-- I have seen it in books, but never modeled.

I love the way you have little notations on the build itself for your reference-- something I do myself---rivet and nut/bolt repacement is a pain in 1/16 scale-- with all those rivet you have in 1/35 all I can say is I am glad it is you and not me!Laugh [(-D]--as always your work looks very precise and very clean----I am sure this is going to be absolutely beautiful when finishedSmile [:)]-----treadCool [8D]

   

 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:29 AM

Hi Brother Tread! 

 Thanks a lot!!

I think that the 35(t) just look so awesome!! Cool [8D] I mean, it's ugly enough to be great looking! Unfortunatly, you have limitations when you look for a kit. It won't stop somebody with a minimum of skills though. That's the beauty of this kit Wink [;)]

I share your pain with rivets...............but that's what make a tank sexy Wink [;)]Laugh [(-D]

 

 

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, March 27, 2009 3:15 PM

Well, after a few months of labor, it's time for a new update on this one:

I made the tarp from tissue paper. This one was probably my 9th attempt. My 1st one was way better, but I forgot to shave down some rivets underneath, and the tissue took their forms........  Blush [:I]

I scrounged the headlight and the horn from a Dragon Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf.A kit. Gotta love it when they add extra parts!  Big Smile [:D]

I also replaced the soft detailed rivets on the front lower armor.

Since I didn't have lead solder wire small enough to replicate the  front light's cable, I tried to use copper wire. However, I quickly gave up, as shaping it properly was a pain in the bottom......  That's when I thought of using solder again, but after rolling it back and forth under a hard and smooth surface. (I used a Starret ruler in its protective sleeve) It elongated the solder, as well as bringing down the diametre. A quarter inch gave me a wire over 3 in long!

At one point during the tarp's construction, I noticed that the front hatch and engine access hatch didn't have all panel lines scribed. At this point in the build, it was a major PITA...... Also, the hinges were underdetailed. So I cut them with a piece of sharpened aluminum pizza plate. Something to remember when I build my Panzer 35(t)......

I also added the rear deck's hooks, made from aluminum plate and my Eduard Panzer 35(t) PE as a template. Net improvement over the kit's absent ones!

The jerry can rack took a while to make. I wasn't happy with my first styrene attempts, so I used a pizza plate once again. I used 2 jerry cans from a Tamiya set, and found earlier types from Armorscale on E-Bay. These are little gems and are really well cast!  Cool [8D]

I gave up scratching a Notek light mount. I will use the ones from Mig. I will also get a PE set for making up straps for the jerry cans and try to find a solution for the tool straps (I noticed last night that they are differents than German tool clasps.......)

I will also get some Evergreen rectangle styrene to scratch the tow bar. Hopefully, my LHS have some in stock.

Comments welcome!

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by the doog on Friday, March 27, 2009 5:56 PM
 Gun Tech wrote:

I wasn't happy with my first styrene attempts, so I used a pizza plate once again.

WHat kind? Pepperoni?! Cheese? I prefer pepperoni myself...lol!

This is looking great! Nice additions of details! How long til the paint?! Tongue [:P]

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Posted by squeakie on Friday, March 27, 2009 6:32 PM

you cab buy small diameter lead wire at just about any place that sells fly tying stuff. I know for sure you canget it in .015" diameter, and I think I've seen it at .010" diameter. .025" is the most common but they can get it. They also have a non lead wire that works just like the solid lead stuff.

gary

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Posted by mg.mikael on Friday, March 27, 2009 9:24 PM
Lookin' good, Gun Tech!! Your Schlepper is coming along nicely, especially like the hand made tarp.Thumbs Up [tup]

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, March 27, 2009 10:08 PM
He's alive! He's alive! Glad to see you back Jean-Michel and you've made some great progress on your schlepper. Thumbs Up [tup] Just don't make us wait another 3 months before your next update or we'll have to send out the mounties for ya!
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Posted by tigerman on Friday, March 27, 2009 10:32 PM
Great to see you back Jean. Wow, crazy good subject there. Those MK's are a sweet upgrade over the kit tracks. Looking forward to seeing what you can do with this.

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Posted by Gun Tech on Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:28 AM

Thank you all guys, I really appreciate Smile [:)]

Doog - I like my pizza all meat, or all dress Wink [;)]  Thanks man, it really means a lot!

Squeaki - I know that smaller wire gauge exist for solder, I just didn't wanted to drive in town  for it at the time. I'll be sure to get some though, it will save precious building time!

Mg.mikeal - Thanks man!

Eric - Man, MKs are just out of this world! It's also very addictive  lol Big Smile [:D]   

Bill - Of course I'm alive Wink [;)]   I'm checking in everyday, but  I'm just to the point where I have to choose between posting and building Sigh [sigh]  I guess that's what comes with my training appointment. Taking night school doesn't help either lol. It's going to be at least 1 1/2 months before the next update, so don't bother sending the Mounties, they won't find me anyway..... I will be in the middle of nowhere in CFB Suffield Wink [;)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Gun Tech on Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:16 PM

Well, I finally finished the towing bar today. It is made of a thick styrene strip that I cut with my hobby mitter saw.

And here is the final assembly:

I left more putty than usual to simulate weld beads. The chains are from an Aber PE set.

And here temporarily installed on the vehicle:

I will wait after decaling before gluing it in place.

One or two power cables, a few straps for the jerries, and it will be complete!

Comments welcome.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by biffa on Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:43 PM
Hey GT i see your still plugging away on this and must say it is looking nice the detail is wonderful keep at it man you are definatly winning, again some very nice scratch building there.
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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, May 25, 2009 12:11 AM

Great, great work GT!  I missed this one the first two go rounds but I'm glad I caught it now!  I love all the detail work you're doing to bring this one up to your standards.  How is the suspension?  I read that it needs a lot of work to get it to line up properly?

 

Ernest

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, May 25, 2009 10:01 AM
Jean-Michel, that's some very nice fabrication and scratch-building work on the towing hitch. You would never know without your description that it wasn't a kit-supplied item! You're getting closer to the finish line with this baby, going to be great to see it with paint on. Wink [;)]
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Posted by mg.mikael on Monday, May 25, 2009 1:00 PM
Stunning scratch work on the tow bar, Gun Tech!! Simply stunning, now let's see this beast painted up.Cool [8D]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, May 25, 2009 1:53 PM

I kinda fell behind on this build, I must say there is some very nice scratchbuilding going on. That tow hitch is incredible considering the size of it. I too would like to see this baby painted.

 

Rob

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Posted by Gun Tech on Monday, May 25, 2009 8:31 PM

Thank you very much guys, it's truly appreciated. 

Ron - Thanks man. I'll make sure to look up a few of your treads when it's time to finish her. Wink [;)]

Ernest - I heard of alignment problems with the suspension before. I didn't notice anything when I last tried the MKs on it. I'll make sure to double check before painting though.

Bill - With the amount of putty I used on that hitch, it could definitly pass for a kit supplied part! Laugh [(-D] I'm kinda curious to know how the real kit's part looks like.

mg.mikael and Rob - Thanks guys. But it will be a few more weeks before the painting session can begin. I am going away again next week for a course, and I have a lot of reports to write up at home...... Sigh [sigh]

Can't wait to start!!

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:11 PM

   Wow this is very nice. That tow hitch is perfect. The time you spent on those rivets was well worth it and its really going to show in the end result.

  Outstanding work Jean.

 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:12 AM
Thank you for your kind words panzerguy.   I really hope I can bring out those rivets during the finishing proccess. Funniest thing is, I have another 35(t) in the stash! Laugh [(-D]        I think I'll take a little rivet break before that one though.   

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Gun Tech on Saturday, September 19, 2009 2:49 PM

Well, time for the last update before the painting stage........

I decided to add pionner tools, as the Sclepper just looked naked without them. After gluing on a few german tool clamps, I realised that I should use straps instead.......    I made them from aluminum, and the buckles are made from audio wire that I shaped into a 1/16" square.

The jack was an extra from a Dragon Panzer 38(t) kit. The half butterfly nuts came from the Bronco set, a must have.

The notek light was from a Mig set, simply gorgeous!

The convoy light was also a spare from Dragon.

I left out the jerry can straps for ease of painting. In all, a though build that took me a little over 1 1/2 year of part time work to complete.

Comments are welcomed as usual.   

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, September 19, 2009 4:22 PM
That's a really interesting project, and it looks like it's been nicely done here. Something different to be sure.
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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:28 PM
Well worth the wait Jean-Michel...now get some paint on it! Wink [;)] Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:50 PM
Always inspiring to see your work Jean.

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 Eric 

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