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Monogram T-80, a question....

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Monogram T-80, a question....
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 30, 2003 7:07 AM
hey, folks !
i'm up visiting with my grandparents, went 2 the LHS around here and found 2 kits, the first was a Dragon 1/72 Abrams kit ( i was thrilled 2 find it, 'cause i've heard nothing but good things about it ) and the second was a T-80... it seems like this kit has been sitting around for awhile, & i was wondering if anyone knows anything about it ?
looks like revell tooling, link & length trax, and decent detail ....
frostySmile [:)]
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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:46 AM
Yes, the kit first made an appearance in the Monogram box here in the states and in a Matchbox box in Europe. It has at least two different boxings currently under the Revell label, T-80 and T-80BV. For some reason when Revell took a step into the 1/72 scale armor world, they used the Monogram and Matchbox names back in the mid-90s.

They did the same thing with their M4A1 Sherman, with the Monogram version being molded in olive green and the Matchbox version molded in white (came with Battle of the Bulge markings).

The T-80 is a fairly decent kit. Eduard makes a photo etch set for it and is stock number 22012. I've got two of these kits and PE sets. The Eduard fret adds headlight guards, grills, external fuel tank details, cupola guards, side skirts and many other enhancements.

BTW the Revell versions' been around since about 1996, or so my instructions state.
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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:57 AM
Here's a quick look on the Dragon Abrams tanks that I did on my other website. Given a choice between the Revell Abrams or the Dragon Abrams, the Revell Abrams is superior.

I grabbed both of these kits at my local hobby shop today. They were $8.95 minus the 10% IPMS club discount, so they ran about $8 a piece.

Hull:
Both kits look to be spawned from their motorized version. The bottom of the hull has spots where screws would have gone to hold the halves together. It also has a pronounced bulge that goes from the #1 road wheel arm to the #5 road wheel arm. Again, probably due to the motorization of the original.

Suspension:
The road wheels have poly vinyl spacers that they mount to and the compensating idler wheel and drive sprockets mount on a metal axle. The drive sprockets are well detailed and appear to be the newer style.

Turret:
The lower turret has a curious hole on the underside, probably to hold the motorized version together. That will require a little plastic surgery to cover up, but nothing major. The bustle rack is molded solid and will have to be opened up or replaced with photo etch. I imagine the ExtraTech PE for the Revell M1A1HA would work to correct this matter. Revell's kit is much better in this area.

Each tank only includes the proper TC cupola for either the M1A1 or the M1A2. The cupola detail is rather soft. The M1A2 has the type of ammo blast panels with the three "mushrooms" (removeable interior ammo rack type) and the M1A1 has the plain non-removeable type.

Both versions have the bustle mounted APU and also include thermal CIP panels for the turret sides and rear (3 panels).

M1A2 specifics:
The M1A2 includes markings for the former Dollar Ninety-Fourth (194th) Separate Armor Brigade out of Ft. Knox, KY. The camouflage scheme is for a test vehicle that was used at the National Training Center in Ft. Irwin, CA. The turret "tact boards" are stickers (yes, peel-n-stick) with the bumper number C22 in tan on a black background. The boxtop pictures a vehicles all MILESed up with a Hoffman device, but parts are not included.

M1A1 specifics:
The M1A1 includes markings for an OIF tank from the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Battalion, 64th Armor. It even includes the "pre-po" markings for the front of the hull. The forward, flat type CIP panels in this kit are represented by a pair of peel-n-sticks. The kit only includes Army style smoke grenade launchers and does not include a Missile Countermeasures Device (MCD), therefore a USMC M1A1 Heavy Common cannot be made OOB.

Tracks:
The high point of these kits are the black vinyl tracks. These are some of the nicest ones I've seen in 1/72 scale and are the later T-158 "Bigfoot" style. This is probably the one area where the kit surpasses the Revell of Germany kit. That kit has nicely done link and length T-156 track that forces you do do an earlier M1A1 variant. The only downside to the vinyl tracks are the T-156 center guides on T-158 tracks as someone on Missing-Lynx pointed out.

Conclusion:
Looks to be a good buy. At under $10 you really can't go wrong. Revell's kit is better, but it's not an A2 and it has early style tracks. It will take a little surgery to make the M1A2 look like an M1A2SEP (as used in OIF), but at 1/72 scale, would be fairly easy to fake.

I bought them since I have several sets of Archer Fine Transfer M1A1 decals in 1/72 scale. I'm debating whether or not to slap them together or order a couple of sets of the ExtraTech photo etch (EXV 72 001) to address the bustle rack problem. Now, where can I get several sets of the vinyl tracks for use on my Revell M1A1-HA?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 30, 2003 11:18 AM
Thanks for the reply, Major G. !
Hope u had a good holiday w/ time to spend with family & friends !
best wishes,
frostySmile [:)]
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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, December 5, 2003 11:51 AM
I have two of the T-80's, one from Revell and the other from Monogram. I didn't realize back then that they were the same kit till I built them both.

They went together very well, and were fun to build. There were no fit problems encountered. The decals were difficult on the one kit. They tended to pop off when dried. The decal set I used to hold them silvered them for some reason. Other than that, there were no major complaints. So, since I had two of the same kit, I painted one in a two tone camouflage, and the other is just Russian Green. I'll get pics up soon hopefully.
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Friday, December 5, 2003 1:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

hey, folks !
the first was a Dragon 1/72 Abrams kit ( i was thrilled 2 find it, 'cause i've heard nothing but good things about it )


knew I should have got it when I saw it in Edmonton this week. but I was already racking up quite a bill.
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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, December 5, 2003 6:26 PM
Hey frosty and everyone! Just thought I'd let you see how the 1/72 scale Revell/Monogram T-80 builds up:

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