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Posted by chopperfan
on Saturday, December 6, 2003 12:31 AM
Originally posted by tigerman
People around the world just don't understand our country. When we are attacked, we fight back with an overwhelming commitment and resolve. We are a nation united and free, thanks to the many sacrifices made by our serviceman/women. God thank all of them.
In the immortal words of Toby Kieth, "We'll put a boot in your ass, THAT'S the American way!!"
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, December 6, 2003 10:48 AM
My dad's war was WWII...My step-dad's war was Korea....Mine was Vietnam...My nephew"s was Desert Storm....he has an 11 year old son, when/where will his war be?
Our family is not special, most if not all of you can site a similar lineage. We must not forget and must not let our children to forget. If/when any of them ask the question "where do we get such men (and women), we need simply say take a look in any direction, they're all around you.
God bless all who have, are, and will serve. God bless all who have, are ,and will also serve by standing and waiting.......................THANK YOU.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, December 6, 2003 3:42 PM
World War II would always be remembered by us Filipino's: The Bataan Death March, The commando raid on the Cabanatuan POW camp, Corregidor Island, McArthur's promise:"I Shall Return", the Battle of Leyte Gulf, McArthur's landing in Leyte Island....Filipino's fought side by side with the Americans not just in WWII but also in Korea.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:53 PM
^^Bump^^
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, December 6, 2003 9:06 PM
Amen Is all I can say
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Posted by wildwilliam
on Sunday, December 7, 2003 10:02 AM
on the morning of the anniversary, i will give this a bump,
and ask that all the American modelers pause today to remember.
(i say American not to exclude any others, but to recognize that they have days of their
own that are more significant to them than this one)
ed.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Sunday, December 7, 2003 6:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by redbird1
My dad's war was WWII...My step-dad's war was Korea....Mine was Vietnam...My nephew"s was Desert Storm....he has an 11 year old son, when/where will his war be? |
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Lets all hope none.
My grandfather had to hide in his attic when German Wehrmacht cordened off the street and rounded up men between 15 and 50 to be sent to work in factories.. He then defended the tree's in the street from being cut down for firewood during the hunger winter. The council pulled them down after the war, so he was somewhat miffed about that.
He never ever told any stories about the war. I do know he was in the reserves of the Dutch army and was called up for active duty, but thats all. He sure as heck didn't have any love for the Germans after that that. He was here during the German occupation trying not to get arrested and sent to camps or factories to his death. I also know he helped the resistance as much as he could. He's a hero of mine and my only regret is that I never got to know him well enough.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Monday, December 8, 2003 1:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman
People around the world just don't understand our country. When we are attacked, we fight back with an overwhelming commitment and resolve. |
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Regarding the Japanese war plan, I think it was an act of monumental self-delusion that the Japanese convinced themselves that the Americans would fold and be unwilling to take the casualties necessary to regain the possessions we had in the Pacific.
File that under the category of "serious errors in judgment." When we put the cap on their oil exports in July 1941 because they had marched into French Indochina, and to settle other scores for their misbehavior over the previous four years, the Japanese Empire was suddenly facing some pretty hard choices, with the fleet down to something like eighteen months' supply and their army to a year, and then they would basically run dry. (The US was the number one oil exported to the world at that time -- pretty wild to think of now, huh?) The oil supply of the Dutch East Indies was lookin' pretty good to them, but they knew they'd have to fight off the US to keep it. And so was born the "cunning plan" purely out of Baldrick's mind, which required that the US be soft and weak round-eyed capitalist non-samurai, and willingly allow them to take over areas in which we had hegemony.
Yeah right.
Once there were literally dozens of attack carriers basically blowing everything that moved in the Pacific to pieces, and then blowing the pieces to pieces, I imagine that required some adjustment to their perception of the weak materialialist capitalist Americans.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 1:15 AM
Larry
What you have to remember is that the tactic of a surprise attack had worked for the Japanese against the superior Russian fleet in 1905. They knew they couldn't beat the US in a head-to-head conflict and thought that, if a surprise attack had worked once....
Furthermore, the British had recently knocked the Italian fleet out of the war in the Mediterranean with an airborne torpedo attack at Taranto. Taranto was a shallow harbour, like Pearl Harbour and so the Japanese could base their plan on an already proven attack.
Where it all went wrong for the Japanese was
1) They didn't launch a second wave. From memory only the Arizona was completely destroyed, the other battleships could be refloated and repaired. The Japanese needed to destroy the US battleships, not just disable them.
2) The US carrier fleet was out on manoeuvres and so escaped the attack. If they had destoyed the carriers they might have ultimately won the war. They might even have won it if they had not lost Midway.
I think the Japanese were hoping that they could put themselves in a position to extract concessions out of the US regarding oil exports and were hoping to achieve this without a long drawn-out war by removing the American's ability to fight in the short-term. Pearl Harbour could have been much more successful from a Japanese viewpoint than it was. Fortunately it wasn't but it also wasn't quite the monumental act of self-delusion it first appears.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 10:06 AM
Unfortunately only the Russian fleet knew it was superior-went right to Japan's head like warm sake.
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Posted by wildwilliam
on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 10:40 AM
The Russians also suffered from political instability in St Petersburg, i believe.
their ability to successfully prosecute a war was on a downturn.
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