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My FIRST Blog! 1st of the IVs UPDATE 2/28 In Lovely Panzer Gray!

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Posted by Killjoy on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 1:26 AM

Wow, I just found this thread, and am I ever impressed.  I too cannot wait for the finished product here!  After years of armorcast and forgeworld resin kits from my warhammer 40k playing days, I'd rather whack my balls with a mallet than touch another resin kit, but you have done an amazing job here!

Color me impressed!

Chris

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 12:14 AM

Ernest......

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r287/thepcmom/smileys/bogger.gif Just pickin' about warp speed;

       actually I was referring to the warped parts that were giving you a bit of a (mis) fit.

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, March 1, 2010 11:17 PM

Hey guys, thanks for taking time to visit!

DM - I know, I know, my WIP updates move along like molasses!  Sorry!  I guess I'm just stuck in sub-warp speed!!

Redleg - And adding the missing screwheads was easier than correcting all the resin problems!!  HEH, I'm just jealous because your HobbyFan M667 Missile Carrier went toether so easily!!

SuppressionFire - Thanks for the kind words!  I've learned from the best...the guys here on this forum!!  

wing nut - thanks Wingie, but I've gotta finish it first before it can claim a shelf spot!!  Maybe if I attach a couple of warp nacelles to the hull..........???

Bill - AFTER getting the two tone paint scheme done I took a look at your website and saw the Pz II you did last year!!  DOH!!  I wish I had seen that earlier, it would have eased my trepidation about trying the gray/brown scheme!Dunce

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Ernest

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, March 1, 2010 1:56 PM

Always great to see another early-war panzer sporting the correct 2-tone scheme! Very nice work on this one and the comparison with the B/W photos is a nice touch too. Sorry to hear of your troubles with the MM Acryl line but sounds like you were able to overcome it with sheer perseverance if nothing else. Yes

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 1, 2010 7:02 AM

That is some of the sweetest work I've seen.   This should occupy a place of honor on the shelf.

Marc  

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:45 AM

WOW!Bow DownBow DownBow Down

Your Panzer could be made into a book dealing with various modeling skills and challenges. Very informative and entertaining WIP's. Can't wait for the finished product. Thanks for takeing the time to share your build.

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:03 AM

Outstanding work with the screw heads. The placement shows very good patience and skill.

Very nice

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, March 1, 2010 12:24 AM

Wow.....

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z242/msferre/Smileys/SPOCK-WTF.gif

Gives new meaning to warp speed don't it?

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:04 PM

Hey all, I’m back with an update.  The model is now primered and now I need to get a basecoat on it.  All early war panzers were painted dunkelgrau, or what I simply call “Panzer Gray”, so lets get that on first!  But which gray to use?  Tamiya?  Vallejo?  MM Enamel?  I really liked how Tom Cockle’s eary Pz.IVs looked in his book; he uses Model Master Acryl Panzer Schwarzgrau so I decided to give that brand a try. Being an acrylic paint I figured it would pretty much behave like Tamiya or Vallejo…more on that later!

 

First I sprayed it straight from the bottle (diluted of course).  Here are some pics of the first few passes:

 

 

 

The color looks pretty good, but these are under the bright lights of my photo lamps.  Under “normal” lighting the straight Schwarzgrau is very dark, and will most likely get darker with the addition of filters and washes.  So I needed to go lighter with the gray, but before doing that I took the opportunity to add some preshading to all the panel lines and objects with flat black along with some streaking.  Then I added quite a bit of MM Acryl Neutral Gray to the Schwarzgrau and highlighted the upper panels.  Then with a 75/25 mix of Schwarzgrau and Neutral Gray I misted light coats over the entire model to blend everything together.  I don’t know what this method is called, preshading, postshading, quasishading, but I like how it works for me!

 

 

 

I want to depict a vehicle on the verge of the invasion of Poland.  My research showed that the color scheme for vehicles at this time was 2/3 Dunkelgrau and 1/3 Dunkelbraun, so I decided to follow this scheme.  I also read that the color value of the gray and brown used were so similar that they were virtually indistinguishable in B&W photos of the time.  Mr. Cockle used MM Acryl Schokoladenbraun for this, but since I already lightened my gray basecoat I figured I needed to do the same with this so I mixed MM Schokoladenbraun and MM Dark Tan  80/20.  But before I sprayed this on I decided to test it first on a scrap item:

 

Looks pretty good in color!

 

 

And the same part photographed in B&W.  HEY!  The brown practically disappeared!!  Perfect!

 

 

So here are color pics of the model with the gray/brown camo scheme followed by the same in B&W!!  Coool!!

 

 

 

 

 

I have to add some comments about the MM Acryl paint I used.   As I said, I thought using them would be pretty much the same as Tamiya or Vallejo, but I was quite wrong.  The MM Acryl paint had the WORST tip dry I’ve ever experienced.  No matter how much I thinned it, with MM’s recommended thinner or with plain distilled water, or a mix of both, the darn paint was stubborn as Censored.  It wanted to dry on the tip almost immediately...I mean one or two passes and then I was scraping paint off the tip with my fingernail, a brush or Q-tip not stiff enought to do the job!  In fact, I couldn’t even use my favorite airbrush with the fine .033 tip.  I had to switch to an older AB with a medium .050 tip just to get it to spray out.  To top it off the paint dryed very fast and hard in the paint cup and took much longer than normal (ie Tamiya) to clean up.  Windex doesn’t affect it like Tamiya and Vallejo paints.  On the positive side, the MM Acryl did lay on the surfaces very smoothly, without a pebbly finish that I sometimes get with Tamiya if I add too much thinner.  

 

Enough grumblings Buffle!!  The basecoat and camo are done!  Next up are the markings!

Ernest

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Posted by bufflehead on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:39 AM

Thanks bill!  I think its easier to make the screwheads all at different  angles then trying to get them all aligned!

 

Well, just a minor update today!  I finally got around to cleaning up all the roadwheels, sprockets and idlers.  WHEW!  Black Eye  What an ordeal…after working on these resin parts I have a WHOLE new appreciation for injection molded plastic!!

 

Almost every roadwheel had issues.  First the pour plug for each, although relatively small and easy to remove left 2-3 little “divots” in each wheel.  Looks like the resin on the wheels shrank in a little at the corners of the pour plugs.  So every roadwheel had to have some putty and sanding work done to it.  Tedious and time consuming (twice as long as just sanding mold seams!) and there are 32 roadwheels on a Pz IV!  Of course with all the sanding the wheels aren’t completely round anymore! Grrrrr!!Angry

 

 

The sprocket parts cleaned up OK, but there was a fit problem with the halves. Where the outer sprocket supports meet the inner sprocket “cone” there were nice big gaps!  Sigh….more filling and sanding!  At least there are only two sprockets!!

 

 

After reviewing some reference photos it seems these sprockets are missing some detail on their front faces so I added some disks punched from lead foil using a 5/64” drill bit on a rubber eraser and some small lead foil strips.

 

The inner idler halves were smaller in diameter than the outer idler halves by .8 mm….not a lot, but enough to be noticeable.  To correct the inner idlers I simply glued a .10 x .60 styrene strip to the outer edge, puttied some gaps and sanded flush.

 

 

 

The bogie assemblies were the easiest part of the whole kit to install! They are all one piece and they cleaned up very quickly with no mold seams!  The detail is quite good and they fit the hull with no problems.  Photos after primer was applied.

 

Alrighty then, now for a nice coat of Panzer Gray!!

 

 

Ernest

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:55 PM

Very nice work on adding the screw heads...and the fact that they all aren't turned the same way either is a nice bonus! Wink Definitely whipping this bad boy into shape Ernest, can't wait to see it painted. Beer

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Posted by bufflehead on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:46 PM

Thanks everyone for your kind words and especially your tips!

redleg - Dental pick huh??  Good tip, thanks for sharing!!Big Smile I'll have to pick one up and give it a try!

bill - Big Smile LOL!  I love your Bermuda Triangle story!!  Who hasn't lost parts to that monster lurking under the desk!  I guess someone has to feed itSmile Burger

G - the funny thing is when I first opened the box and looked at the parts I thought, "This is going to be EASY!"  Oops

Terry - as a fisherman I know EXACTLY the boxes you mention!  Silly me just doesn't think about those things at the bench!!Dunce

The turret is up next.  Fortunately the turret didn’t have any ill fitting parts, but there were a few things that needed fixing.  First thing I needed to do was rebuild a couple of hatch hinges on the left side.  These were broken when I got the kit, so I knew up front that a little styrene work was needed there.  I used very small pieces of .030 x .060 styrene strip sanded to the correct shape and with a little hole drilled in each for the hatch pin. 

 

Then I noticed that the turret top was missing the screwheads common to ALL PZ IVs.  Hmmmm….how many of those Lion Roar screwheads do I have left??  Darn!  Not enough...I needed 32!  Time to try Mr. Cockle’s tube and screwdriver method!  By this time I had picked up some very small diameter Lion Roar thin wall brass tubing, including a .8 mm set that was the perfect size for the screwheads.  All I did cut off a 1” section, chucked it into my Dremel and carefully ground the inside to a chisel edge using a fine pointed grinding burr.  Then I chucked it into a pin vise and VOILA!!  Screwhead indenter deluxe!  Thanks Tom Cockle!  Oh, and I didn’t want to ruin any of my jeweler’s screwdrivers so I simply filed a Xacto blade to the right dimensions for making the screw head slot.

 

 

 

Steps I used to make the screwheads.  I practiced first on a piece of sheet styrene.

 

 

For the screwhead pattern I simply copied the pattern from the Dragon Ausf.C turret onto a piece of drafting vellum and then used the vellum to create a drill template from clear acetate.  Then I taped the acetate to turret roof and used the aforementioned method to scribe in the screwheads!  Photo taken after primer was applied:

 

 

One of the resin hatch stops/latch was consumed by the all powerful carpet monster so, as usual, replacements came from the Dragon Ausf. C kit.  The kit’s co-axial MG was meant to be just glued to the outside of the mantlet; wanting a little more detail I drilled a hole in the mantlet for the MG (in the wrong spot of course  ) and filled it with a spare Dragon MG34.  That’s it for replacement parts, everything else on the turret is from the kit. 

 

Another unique feature of the Ausf.A was the commander’s “dustbin” cupola which had 8 vision slits protected by armored glass. The slits could be open or closed by metal plates on the inside.  Honestly I don’t know if the slits were opened by individual plates or one plate that opened all of them, however I tend to believe the former as one of my reference photos definitely shows two open slits, but the rest look closed. 

 

Assembling the cupola was a fairly easy affair.  The only problem I had was the PE strip for the view slits…it was slightly too long and required some trimming to fit correctly.  At this time I realized that behind the open view slits there was just solid resin, which means the kit cupola represents all the slits in a closed state.  For some reason I really wanted to see glass in those slits, so I went crazy and used a small grinding burr on the inside of the cupola to open up ALL the slits!  Then I glued the PE strip on and glued the assembled cupola to the turret making sure the slits were aligned properly.   My plan is to cut small pieces of clear plastic or acetate and install them from the inside to represent the armored glass.

 

 

 

So the turret was done…..almost.  After attaching the cupola and placing the turret on the hull I noticed that when viewed from the sides, the cupola wasn’t perfectly vertical, but had a definite forward tilt.  You’ll notice this in the previous photo.  At first I thought that the cupola base was the culprit but after checking photos, and various PZ IV diagrams and color plates I realized the entire resin turret had a forward tilt!  It turned out that the Coree turret dimensions are off, the front walls of the turret are too short!  To correct this I glued on styrene shims all around the turret base except for the rear and then trimmed, puttied, and sanded the shims to taper to the rear.  When all was done I didn’t raise the front as much as I had intended but it was definitely an improvement! 

 

 

That’s it!  Turret done!

 

Suspension next and then off to paint!

 

Ernest

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Posted by terry35 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 5:36 PM

EArnest I think you got yourself a show stopper there, beautiful work so far. The extra work your putting into the blog is really paying off. 

On another note, I work near a fishing tackle shop and one day I noticed they had some boxes with little compartments for hooks etc. well they also take sub-assemblies as your working. Worth thinking about.

Terry.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 11:30 AM

Ernest,

I share your pain about setting parts aside for "safe keeping" and then not being able to find them...it's not limited to old age either so don't feel bad. For example I painted up two nice MG34 ammo cans to go with my Nashorn project and now they've up and vanished. No trace at all and I know for sure I brought them back to the work bench after painting. They have disappeared into the Bermuda triangle, nevermind being swallowed up by the carpet monster! Your fix on the AA mount is very well done, you'd never know by looking at it with the primer on that it was a scratch-built replacement. Yes

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 7:23 AM

Very nice work. Glad you found your parts. Old age creaps up on us fast. Next thing you know....a big part of life is Viagra and Flowmax Surprise

I too will disagree with the CA glue tips. I actually use a fine dental pick. I can put a drop of glue on the tip and direct it anywhere on the model. When I am done I clean the pick with the back of the X-acto blade to scrape off the dry glue.

Keep on pushing!

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, February 7, 2010 1:44 AM

Indy, I had the SAME problem before with the Mission Model glue tips so I left them as a last resort.  The flexi-tips worked well enough that I didn't even try using the MM tips during this build.  However, if I do try them again I was thinking of removing the tip as soon as I'm done and dropping it into a small bottle of acetone to soak until the next session.  

And thanks for your kind words about the build and blog!  I'm still learning how to type everything up in a cohesive manner!

Ernest

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, February 7, 2010 1:33 AM

Oh Man!  I thought I'd commented already! Well....... Fabulous  build on a really well-produced thread ! One of the best in recent memory IMO. Your build is quite remarkable on many point-I'll just say well done!

Except---the C/A tips---the flexis look good. I've been using the Zap "Z-ends" with the seperate tubing you cut to desired length and it works quite well(mostly)  The metal ones from Mission Models I've tried more recently and are great (though you cant see the fluid travel in the nozzle) until, you finish the session. Next time you pick it up its hopelessly clogged. Any tips on using those tips?

~~Staying tuned on this excellent build........

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, February 7, 2010 1:02 AM

Bill – you’re one of the masters of the FSM Blogs so you’re words mean a lot to me!  Thanks!

 

Redleg  Thanks for the resin tip!  I totally forgot about Smooth-On casting resin.  Instead I bought some CR-600 casting resin from Micro-Mark.  Haven’t used it yet, but like the Smooth-On it also has a longer pot life, I believe 7 minutes.  I’m eager to try it out soon!

 

Getting back to the assembly, all the major parts now fit nicely together and it was a simple matter of fitting the parts in place and applying super thin CA glue to the joints from the inside.  I figured the easiest way to do that would be these:

 

 

I found the flexible applicator tips worked pretty well for this.  They just slip over the CA tip and when tipped over formed a very small drop of CA…just what I needed!  I didn’t even need to squeeze the bottle very much.  Once the flexi tip was filled with super thin CA gravity did the rest! 

 

 

After all the hull parts were glued together, I realized I needed to add the inside front of each fender before attaching them.  My first thought was to cut these off the resin fenders, but the dimensions were wrong.  I couldn’t use the parts from the Dragon kit as there are no extras, so more scratch-building was necessary.  Nothing serious, just some .015 styrene cut to shape and detailed with the remaining .05 Caliber 35 rivets, some PE scrap for the square plates and some additional rivets made from lead foil (I didn’t have enough of the Caliber 35 rivets).  Then they were glued to the fenders and the fenders CA’ed (is that a word?) to the hull.  You can see this in the photo of the front in my previous update.

 

Two areas that needed attention at this stage were the left rear engine panel above the intake grills and the metal stowage box on the right front fender.

 

In this photo you’ll see the gun cleaning rods in place but you’ll notice the styrene replacement panel underneath.  The resin here was ultra thin and split under my handling, leaving a large tear that I couldn’t fix with just glue and putty as the grills underneath provided no support for a repair.  So I just sanded away the entire panel and replaced it with a piece of .030 styrene cut to match.  A little trimming, puttying and sanding and I had a better panel that I started out with!

 

 

The metal stowage box on the right fender is unique to the Ausf. A…at least I’ve never seen it on any other version.  However the resin box provided by Coree seemed oversized and with it in place I couldn’t get the axe to fit correctly on the fender.  So I just made a new one from styrene and used PE handles from a Eduard Sd.Kfz.251 set.  In hindsight its probably undersized, but I won’t notice the difference and the axe fits with no problems!

 

 

Now that those problems were taken care of I was ready to add the rest of the tools and hull parts.  Except….I could not find the resin parts!  Almost all the little parts on the pour stubs sort of DISAPPEARED! Huh?  I mean I tore apart the entire room looking for them.  I looked, LOOKED and LOOKED AGAIN for TWO days, but they were nowhere to be found.  At this point frustration and desperation set in as I was trying to finish the model in two weeks (by 12/31)!   I had no choice now but to sacrifice the Dragon kit parts that I was trying to save.Angry I wasn’t worried about the tools, as I had plenty of spares, but there were other parts I had no spares for.  So the Dragon kit gave up its front and rear fender parts, its headlights, antenna tray, rear tow hooks and turret hatch stops.  Not a lot, but enough to annoy the heck out of me as I really wanted to save the Dragon kit for a later build!Boo Hoo 

 

So the fenders were completed and the headlights installed.  At this point I realized I was missing a very important part that I couldn’t steal from another kit…the side mounted AA MG mount!  Surprise AYE CARAMBA!  No choice really but to scratch-build a replacement using .025 and .030 styrene rod, PE scraps and brass wire.  As I was looking for some brass wire in the Coree box I found a Ziploc bag with 2 pieces of cardboard in it and hidden inside were the “lost” resin parts!!  Then I remembered that several weeks earlier I put the parts inside the bag between the cardboard to protect the fragile resin.  SIGH!  I guess that happens when you get older……Dunce

 

As it turned out, the resin AA MG mount was poorly molded so the scratch-built replacement was necessary anyway.  I made some dimensional corrections and installed the mount along with everything else on the hull.  Photo after primer was applied:

 

 

Now for the tools:  At first I was going to use spare Dragon tools with molded on clamps and actually glued on the gun cleaning tube assy, but then decided to go all out with PE clamps. For the simple folding clamps I used the kit PE, but opted to use Model Kasten half wing nuts instead of PE.  The kit’s clamps with handles weren’t up to par so I used Lion Roar’s German Clamp PE set, LE35091.  The shovel is a spare Dragon part; the rest of the tools came from the Caliber 35 tool set.  Although I found the resin antenna tray, it was warped and I couldn’t straighten it, so Dragon to the rescue again!  The antenna itself is just stretched sprue but the rest of the antenna assembly is from the Coree kit.  Lastly I added some fine chain to the front tow mounts and the hull MG34 is a brass accessory from Aber.

 

Here you go:

 

 

 

 

 

 

OK, so the hull is done!  In the next update I’ll cover the turret and the rest of the assembly!

Ernest

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 9:55 AM

Some very nice work there Ernest, the scratch-built details really shine and the LR hardware is cool. Your fix on the fenders and the casting are also well done, you're branching out in a lot of ways with this one. Keep us posted! [tup]

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 4:51 AM

Some outstanding detail work. Very nice.

For casting I use Smooth-On products. The resin I use gives me a 7 to 10 minute working time.

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Posted by bufflehead on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 12:29 AM

Well, its been a while since I last posted an update.  I left off with the problems I encountered with some bad fitting parts from the resin kit, deciding to scratchbuild some replacements.  I went back to look for more WIP photos and realized that I stopped taking photos when I got really into the build, not taking any more until most of the assembly was done…oops!  So I spent some time recently recreating some of the work so I could post some photos. 

 

Lets take a look at the rear plate first:

 

In this photo you’ll see what I did.  Most of the new plate is done, I just need to saw off the idler mounts and the outlet for the traverse motor exhaust, carefully sand away the backs to get back to the correct thickness and glue them onto the new plate.  The other parts are not required; the square plates on the sides of the resin plate are for the rear tow hooks which are not a feature of the Ausf. A (Coree got that wrong!) and the two small rectangular blocks are just for properly locating the resin main exhaust.

 

 

At first I was going to totally scratchbuild the upper plate, but thought maybe I could save time by just reworking  the original resin part by sawing it two at a spot where there was a minimum of detail and adding an extension made from styrene.  I actually did a pretty good job of it, but then I found that the corner angles of the resin plate were off and reworking them would cause more fit problems and also misalign the prominent screw heads….SIGH!.  So it was back to scratchbuilding.  The hardest part was getting the angles just right and it took three attempts to get a perfect fitting plate.  Then I had to figure out how to add those sunken screw heads. In Tom Cockle’s “Modelling the Early Panzerkampfwagen IV”  he describes how he does this by using a sharpened stainless steel tube of the correct diameter to make the round indentation and a sharpened jeweler’s screwdriver for the slot.  Cool idea, except I couldn’t find ANY tube small enough to do that.  Instead I found I had a set of Lion Roar PE fittings that had the perfect size slotted screwheads!!  Yippee!  All I had to do was drill a small hole and drop in the tiny screwheads!  In the photo below the unused reworked resin part is below the new styrene replacement

 

 

Adding the screwheads wasn’t that hard.  Fortunately I remembered I had a little drill guide from CMK that was perfect for aligning the holes.  I just had to be real careful not to drill all the way through the .020 styrene plate.  A little CA glue was all that was needed to fix the PE screwheads in place!

 

 

The rest of the detail was relatively simple consisting of various strip styrene, hex head bolts made by salami slicing some styrene hex rod, Caliber 35 .05 rivets and a couple of German wing nuts from Bronco.  The tow cable hooks are just bent .020 brass wire.   Below is a photo of the completed back assembly with the remaining resin and PE kit parts in place. 

 

 

Oh yeah, by the time I was ready to assemble everything I lost the scratchbuilt tow assembly, so I stole the parts from the Dragon Ausf. C kit (what a lifesaver that kit has been) and added some fine chain just for the “halibut”!

 

Now for the front glacis plate.  Recall that I raided the Dragon Ausf. C kit for a spare plate and transmission hatch.  The problem was the brake access hatches which I started to scratchbuild.  The were coming along pretty well, but I had a devil of a time adding the weld bead all around the edge of the hatches!  I tried every method I know: stretched sprue, textured model putty, fine solder wire, Archer weld beads and lastly some Aves ApoxieSculpt, but STILL I wasn’t happy with the results. Black Eye  I really wanted them to look like the Dragon kit parts!  Soooooo, it occurred to me that what I really wanted was exact DUPLICATES of the Dragon parts.  What the Censored are you thinking bufflehead?  Make resin copies???  Oh my, now we’re getting serious!! 

 

Yep, so I was down in Los Angeles on Thanksgiving weekend at Brookhurst Hobbies and bought this:

 

 

Two weeks later I tried my first attempt at making resin copies.  I won’t go into detail on how the process works, but it was a blast making molds from the original and mixing the resin for the copies! My first attempts were disappointing as the Alumilite resin mix cures REALLY fast and I couldn’t make complete copies at first. 

 

Here’s a look at my hatch work.  The Dragon kit part is on the left, then my disappointing scratchbuilt copy, and finally two failed resin attempts.  You can see how the hinges are miscast and there are air bubble holes present on the hatches. 

 

However I wasn’t discouraged and finally I managed to mix a batch of resin that cured a little slower and allowed me some time to work the resin into the hinge portions of the mold!  The parts that come out were really nice and only had a couple of minor air bubbles that were easy to fill and sand!  Again, I didn’t take photos of these, but here’s a photo of the completed assembly and you can see the successful resin duplicates!Big Smile 

 

 

What happened to the Dragon transmission hatch?  Well, I accidentally ran over it with my chair and it was easier to just scratchbuild a replacement than to repair it.  Plus the replacement fit better than the Dragon part!

 

Before I glued all those plates on and glued the upper and lower hulls together I wanted to take another look at those resin fenders.  Remember those?  Weren't they a little warped?  Well, they were more than warped...they were also waaay too short!  To be honest I wasn’t surprised and immediately turned to my savior, the Dragon Ausf. C kit!  The kit comes with two sets of fenders, one with locating holes for the tools with molded on clamps and one without holes in case you want to install PE clamps, which is the set I needed for this build!

 

In this photo you can see the comparison between the two fenders, the Coree fenders being short by nearly ½”! Surprise (FYI, the Coree fender has the front part molded on whereas the front of the Dragon fender is a separate part).   Actually the Dragon fenders are a bit too long for the Coree hull by about 1/8”, but its easier to shorten the fenders than to make the resin ones longer!  Note the seam on the Dragon fender, which is where I’ll make the cut to shorten it.

 

 

And here’s the section of the fender that I’ll remove using one of my favorite modeling tools, a JLC razor saw!

 

 

I made sure the first cut was straight along that seam and the second cut was straight and true to the first cut.  All I had to do afterwards was a little clean up and then butted the two fender sections back together followed by a swipe of Tenax 7R liquid cement which has an excellent bond and sets very quick.  A little sanding along the edge to blend the two sections, then duplicated everything for the opposite side and, Voila!  New fenders that fit just right!  BTW, the Ausf. A had a wider upper hull than subsequent versions so I wasn’t worried about that section missing the treadplate…the Coree hull will cover it all up!

Here’s a little photo close-up of the right side fender, again after assembly was complete.  You can barely see the seam of the reworked section!  Whew!

 

 

With most of the rework done the next update will be assembly of the parts!  I hope I didn’t bore anyone with this post!

Ernest

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Posted by mg.mikael on Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:53 AM

Sorry to hear that resin is being such a beastly problem. Nevertheless, that's some top-notch scratching.Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:40 AM

Looks like you've found suitable work-arounds to the kit's shortcomings. Keep plugging away at it! Yes

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Posted by redleg12 on Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:23 AM

Keep your head up.....not every resin kit is that bad...Glad to see you moving into the correction mode

Now you will have a multi-media kit!!!!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by bufflehead on Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:02 AM

wow, I guess I do have an arsenal!!  That's what happens when you buy more stuff than you build!!

Promised update:

With arsenal at hand its now time to start work!  Although I didn't notice any resin mold release on the parts I decided to clean them anyway prior to assembly. All the major components were sprayed with a 70/30 solution of water/Simple Green and then rinsed in warm water, making sure the stopper was in the drain!!  The parts were allowed to air dry before handling again.  As with any kit, I like to dry fit all the major parts before gluing anything to see if they all fit properly.  The upper and lower hulls fit together nicely!  They are very solid and square and there is no warping or blemishes anywhere!   

However, after removing the casting plugs from the other hull panels I found some serious fit problems Surprise:


The glacis plate and upper and lower rear plates have a horrible fit to the hull.Sad  As you can see in the photos the plates are short on all four sides leaving huge gaps.  The lower rear plate is also warped with a definite bow, but the warpage probably can be corrected with careul application of heat. 

Unfortunately, there was no way to correct the width dimensions since all the parts are molded on!! At first I thought that there was a scale problem, wondering if maybe the hull was 1/32 scale but the panels 1/35...???  So I pulled out from the stash the Tristar Pz. IV D and the Dragon Ausf. C and checked their dimensions.  Turns out the resin hull is spot on which means that the panels are incorrect.  I couldn't believe that they could be miscast, but then I recalled that resin does have a tendency to shrink...I just didn't know it could shrink that much!  The only theory I have is that the kit was cast several years ago (anyone know when Coree went out of business?) and that the panels were cast with a different batch of resin or even different type of resin then the hull and that over time the shrinkage occurred.  Whatever was the cause I have a major problem to overcome practically at the start!  Black Eye 

After some time I decided that the best option was to completely scratchbuild the rear panels using the only the idler housings from the original resin part.  In this photo most of the lower panel has been rebuilt except for the idler housings.  Rivets came from a Caliber35 rivet set and the hex bolts are from Grandt Line.  The upper rear plate has not been detailed yet.

For the glacis I am fortunate that the Dragon Ausf C had an extra glacis plate, but not a transmission hatch or brake hatches.  The transmission hatch I cut from an extra Dragon Ausf E glacis, but the brake hatches I have to build from scratch.

The photo below shows some of the work done.  The hatch on the bottom right is from the Dragon Ausf C kit that I'm using as a master for the replacements.  I still need to make another brake hatch and detail both of them with weld beads and PE hatch locks.  As soon as I finish the glacis parts I can start gluing parts onto the lower hull! 

So its not an auspicious start for this full resin kit!  Already I have to replace resin with plastic....grrrrrrr Angry   Oh well, at least I can practice my scratchbuilding skills!! 

Ernest

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:07 PM

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/bufflehead5/DSCN3448.jpg

What an arsennal of supplies.

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:11 AM

Looks like you are prepped and ready to assemble!!  Yes I read the same article about using a Gounod off needle I still need to do that!

Good Luck Sir I will be watching!

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Posted by bufflehead on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:37 PM

Hi all, sorry to respond so late but work and family duties kept me away from the forums.  But I'm back with an update for you.  First, thanks for all of you chiming in!  I really appreciate all the support!

ps1scw - you're right about the glow-in-the-dark resin color!  Didn't notice that before, so I HAD to check it out!  Sorry to report that with the lights out it looks like plain old resin!!Sad

doog - so I take it you're not too keen on resin?  After working on this kit, I might have to side with you!  Give me a plastic Tamiya kit any day!!

redleg - oh I tried the warm water trick on the warped resin!  Then hot water and even boiling water!  Man, resin is some stubborn stuff!!

mg.mikael - brave or foolish!  Styrene glue doesn't bother me but an open bottle of CA glue is definitely a brain cell killer!  WHEW!!

wbill76 - I'm with you on the pre-war/early war vehicles Bill!  Fascinating subjects, plus I seem to have a thing lately for panzer gray!  I just hope my blog can live up to the standards you and others have set!

tigerman - Eric, no kidding on the resin cleanup, but I went into this with a strong battle plan and I think my strategies paid off.  At least it kept me out of the nut house!!Stick out tongue

M1Carbine - We'll see if I can pull off a good resin build!!

I want to reiterate that the kit is much farther along than this update shows, which I suppose means I'm still suffering!  It also means I've kept out of the asylum....so far!

"NOTE*  If you understand how to use resin parts then the rest of this update might be really BOORING to you!!  I should have another update tomorrow.

Before I started assembly I had to remind myself 3 things about resin:

  1. Resin parts have pour plugs, not sprues.  The tools I use for plastic will probably have to be augmented with specialized tools.
  2. Styrene glue will NOT work with resin.  Cyanoacrylate (CA) and epoxy glues work best for resin.
  3. Resin dust from sanding, grinding, sawing can be hazardous to your health so a dust mask or respirator will be needed.

Since this is a full resin kit I made sure I had a full compliment of saws, knives, grinders etc.  A mini-drill (ie. Dremel) is very handy for quick removal of pour plugs.

CA glue, CA glue and even MORE CA glue!!  With so much resin I wasn't sure which type of CA would be best so I pulled out everything I had, then went to the LHS and bought a couple more!  CA accelerator and debonder are two items I figured I should have.  Oh, there's some epoxy there too!

But how best to apply CA??  In my experience applying CA straight from the bottle tip is a disaster waiting to happen!!  For larger applications (which I figured has got to happen with an all resin kit) this might work, but I wanted better control and also a way to get into tight spots.  So I shelled out a few duckets for these little guys.  Hopefully they'll work out and not get clogged too fast.

For tiny applications of CA I needed a better method.  I've tried putting a couple of drops on some scrap plastic and using a toothpick or needle to apply a tiny drop of CA but sometimes the drop doesn't want to come far enough down the tip of the needle or toothpick.  But I read about a neat little trick in some magazine (FSM?) and decided to try it.  Basically you take a sewing needle and grind off the end of the eye.  The open eye holds a tiny drop of CA perfectly at the end, just where I need it!!

I didn't take any photos of a respirator or dust masks as I figured most modelers know what these are!

OK, with the proper tools, supplies and equipment at hand its time to tackle the resin, BUT I don't want to make this update too long so I'll post another update tomorrow.   

 

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by M1Carbine on Sunday, January 17, 2010 2:28 AM

Ooooooo, a full resin kit....Nice

Cant wait to watch this puppy go togeather.

 

Bob

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