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Churchill Mk.III AVRE COMPLETED 3/6/11

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Churchill Mk.III AVRE COMPLETED 3/6/11
Posted by hughes2682 on Friday, August 13, 2010 2:13 AM

The bench had not even cooled off from the last build before this one hit it. 

There is a small amount of PE that came with it but, I opted to include Eduards PE kit, workable links, and turned brass rivets (It beats cleaning up the plastic ones)

At first the suspension looks a bit daunting.  Once you really look at it, it isn't that bad really.

The best part is that these babies articulate.  Hmmmm, now how uneven do I really want to make the base?

This shot shows how nice the turned brass rivet are.  They are worth the price of admission.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by mg.mikael on Friday, August 13, 2010 9:32 AM

Ouuu, I will definately be following this build, hughes2682!Cool Been wanting to get this kit for awhile now, except I have yet to find it at a good price anywhere. Nevertheless this should be a good looking build, are you gonna make it as a straight-up Avre or do you plan to make it into one of the variants?

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Posted by total american patriot on Friday, August 13, 2010 9:51 AM

count me in!

 

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Posted by hedorah59 on Friday, August 13, 2010 11:41 AM

Man you started this one before the paint even dried on your last one!  Big Smile  I will be following along on this one for sure.

BTW, on top of the page it says '1 follower' - How do you get to be a follower? Is it something simple that I am not seeing?

Also, who sells the brass rivets? They look really nice. Thanks!

Kirk

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, August 13, 2010 1:47 PM

Off to a great start Dave!

BeerKirk, you can become a "follower" by clicking on the Email Replies to Me button at the top of the thread. It will then add you to an auto-email distribution list anytime someone replies to the thread. HTH!

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Posted by hedorah59 on Friday, August 13, 2010 2:29 PM

I couldn't find the button you were talking about until I went into my profile and changed one of the settings. Now I see it. I will have to be particular on which threads I follow or else my emailbox will overflow  Big Smile

Thanks Bill!  Yes

Kirk

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Posted by hughes2682 on Friday, August 13, 2010 2:55 PM

mg.mikael,

Thank you for checking in on this new build and following along.  I am contemplating putting a facine on this beastie. I am not that up to date on Churchills but, there is no time like the present to learn.

Total American Patriot,

Consider yourself counted!Big Smile

Hedorah59,

I had just barely dried.Big Smile  Thank you for following along on this one.  The brass rivets are by AFV.  They come in version A or B.  I am doing version B.

Bill,

Thank you yet again sir.  I need to check in on your build as it been a couple of days. Surprise

I'll be getting more done today.  This am and early afternoon are a bit hectic.  First I need to get some close up pics of the figure on my last build.  Edmund asked very politely for them so, since he has gone above and beyond in being helpful with many things, I shall get them posted this evening. That and some more progress pics of this build.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by Bronto on Friday, August 13, 2010 5:19 PM

Good going so far!  If you are building a WWII AVRE I hope it isn't too late to mention that AFV copied the AVRE at Bovington and it has post war additions added to it - the armor on the air intakes, the commanders cupola, and a few other small fittings.

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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, August 13, 2010 5:31 PM

Had my eye on this one.

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Posted by hughes2682 on Monday, August 16, 2010 10:50 AM

Bronto,

Thank you for the compliment and the heads up.  No, it wasn't too late.  Your reply prompted me to find one of my resource books and, wouldn't you know it. Embarrassed there are a few differences.  The cupola is getting jettisoned.

DM,

You had your eye on this one? As a build? Or one for your very own?  If you haven't gotten it, I would recommend it. So far it is going together very nicely.

I got some work done (the fun kind) before I had to go to work (the kind that I earn $$$ at).  The suspension is not at all like the nightmare I had envisioned.  AND !!!!!! THE BEST PART!!!! The suspension articulates.

Well, it's been a long night.  My pm is most of yours am, so without further ado, I am off to inspect the insides of my eyelids. Sleep

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, August 16, 2010 11:46 AM

hughes2682

DM,

 

You had your eye on this one? As a build? Or one for your very own?  If you haven't gotten it, I would recommend it. So far it is going together very nicely.

EyebrowAs a build............ and definitely as my own.

OH CRAP!............

Now you've done it. This PIC says it all. Gonna gotta get it.

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Hurry up, I wanna see it!

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 16, 2010 2:34 PM

The springs and working suspension were one of the things that really set this AFV offering apart when it was first announced/released and yours looks awesome Dave. Making good progress! Yes

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Posted by total american patriot on Monday, August 16, 2010 4:14 PM

wow! I feel bad for the people who had to build the REAL thing!

 

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Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, August 16, 2010 5:18 PM

This looks like it is going to be some good old fun!  Can't wait to see how it comes along.

Brian

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Posted by RickLawler on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:02 AM

Hi,

Having built 2 of these I can tell you that you're past the fiddly parts now...the remainder of the build goes along quickly.  Nice work on the suspension.

 

Rick

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:49 PM

Sorry for the delay in replying folks but, I've been out of state visiting family with the tribe in tow.  The last hurrah of the summer before school. It is GOOD to be home! The assembly of the AVRE will resume shortly. I did get the road wheels on one sponson before leaving to Michigan.  I'll get some pics up of that later today. 

DM,

LMAO!  Now go and get it!  You won't be sorry.  There are some fiddley details I need to get on the sponsons before attaching them to the hull plate.

Bill,

Thank you sir.  The sponsons actually built up rather easily.  Not the disaster that some thought it would be.

Total American Patriot,

I thought the same thing as I was building the assemblies. "I would NOT want to be the one/crew maintaining this system".

Brian,

For all the small fiddley parts, it really is a blast to build.Big Smile

Rick,

I found some pics of your AVRE and, I must say, that is an amazing build. Thank you for the compliment! I built a couple of links from AFV's separate link set and I have to say they are sweet. I may have to leave off a fender or two on the upper hull to show them off.  It seems a shame to cover up that kind of detail.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:13 PM

Here is the progress I got done before leaving town. 

The "centipede" shot. Big Smile

A detail shot of the forward roadwheel

I got started on a couple of links.  I wanted to see how well they went together and, how they meshed with the drive and idler sprockets.  Flawless.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, August 30, 2010 8:39 PM

Hi Dave!

great choice of builds! Something interesting on the Armor Forum. Looks great so far--

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 30, 2010 10:36 PM

Coming along nicely Dave...and people think that German vehicles have a lot of road wheels...Big Smile

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:07 AM

Oh, I like this build a lot! And I get the chance to see how the Churchill was constructed. The suspension was always a mistery to me, but now I'm gonna watch this with pleasure! Good luck with your project, have a nice day

Pawel

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, September 5, 2010 10:32 AM

INDY,

Thank you for the compliment.  I felt I needed a break from something German and, I didn't want to build the same thing as others were building.  Yup! This one filled the bill.

Bill,

Thank you sir.  It once was that when I built my first Sherman I said I would never again complain about German road wheels.  Now that I've started this one I have finally realized that I should just stop complaining about road wheels.Wink 

Pawel,

I am glad you like it.  I remember as a child seeing footage and pictures of Churchill's and being intrigued by the running gear. Thank you for following along on this build.  Yesterday was an excellent day. It was very productive around the house and I got a marathon session in at the bench, as you will see with the following pictures. So for you dial up folks, you may wish to run an errand or two as there are a  number of pictures.

Yesterday this beastie really started to take shape as I have gotten the sponsons, hull bottom and, rear end assembled. It always impresses me at this stage when building armor just how massive these things are (or just how diminutive the PzI is).  

This is a shot of the spare gas tank bracket.  "Hmmmm, not quite what I wanted" I thought so, I went ahead with the Eduard PE option. They are a three piece affair (as you can see in the shot of the instructions) that I opted to solder the main part and the lower bracket.  This whole assembly was, in turn, glued to the rear end with CA.

I shot some pics to illustrate how I got the radius in the bracket. As I usually do with these odd assemblies, I cobble something together that I've got within arms reach at the bench. Heaven forbid I get up.Wink I clamped a scrap section of brass tubing to the bench.  The radius of the tube is a bit smaller than that of the plastic piece as this usually gets me the finished radius that I need. I clamped one end down with a flat clip and burnished the radiused portion. I shot a comparison pic of the plastic and PE parts.

I should get more done today but there is a lot of fiddley stuff I'm wanting to do to the upper hull.  Such as PE tool brackets.  Never again will I complain about German tool brackets. Big Smile

Cheers

Dave

 

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:20 AM

Making good progress Dave, nice work on that bracket. I hear you about reluctance to get up from the bench when you're in "the groove". Wink

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, September 5, 2010 12:12 PM

Bill,

Thank you.  I was thinking about putting a rolled up tarp on the bracket but, it would seem a shame to cover that detail up.  We shall see.  "The groove" vs economy of effort.  However one wishes to look at it.  Big Smile.  The groove does sound better.  

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by mg.mikael on Sunday, September 5, 2010 12:43 PM

Ha! The lower hull and suspension on your Churchill look more advanced then some models I've built.Cool Nevertheless, it's coming along nicely and that bracket is lookin' mighty fine.Yes

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Posted by lespauljames on Sunday, September 5, 2010 1:16 PM

Beaut of a kit, i have been looking more and more into AFv after completing their 1/48 tiger. nice PE work, im not very good with curves.! aby particular vehicle your gonna go with?

 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Monday, September 6, 2010 10:04 AM

Mg.Mikael,

The ironic thing is that it has been one of the easiest to assemble and, it went rather quickly.  Thank you about the bracket.  The plastic one was nicely molded but the PE one was too nice to pass up.

Lespauljames,

Thank you for the compliment.  It does go together rather nicely.  Just be VEEERRRRY careful when it comes to drilling holes for the rivets.  I botched the front ones.  I didn't drill them until after the hull was nearly buttoned up.  Fortunately I got it to all work out.  I'm not going after any particular vehicle.  Just enjoying the build really.  I needed to get another one of those under my belt.  This one has been a blast thus far.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:42 PM

Not a very big update this week, what with kids starting middle school this last week.  I did get a moment in at the bench and enough time to snap a couple of pics.

I may have taken some artistic license with the front armor plates.  I am figuring that plate that thick is flame cut and would be a bit rough so, I took the razor saw to the plates and scored them lightly. I could not find a decent reference pic of the front hull armor plate.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:28 PM

Any progress is good progress Dave and those conical bolts add a certain "mean" look to it for sure. Beer

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:27 PM

Holy smokes that suspension is sweet! I would have pulled what remaining hair I have out when it came time to paint all those roadwheels! Your pe work is looks very nice and clean also!

Eric

 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:00 PM

Bill,

I thought that about the bolts as well.  The drivers direct vision hatch looks down right medieval.  

Jester,

The suspension just begs to be placed on an uneven surface.  Which is what I plan on doing.  I am going to paint the beast as one big sub assembly.  The springs will be weathered after that.  I may end up pulling out my hair when it comes to applying the graphite stick to the contact portion of the road wheels after painting. As for the PE, I love working with the stuff, so as long as it is an improvement over the plastic part it is to replace. The exhaust cover was molded so well in plastic that I did not bother with the PE version.

Gentlemen, thank you for the compliments and stopping by. More updates to follow.

Cheers

Dave

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