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Nazi Flag (How to paint)?????????

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Nazi Flag (How to paint)?????????
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:56 PM
I dont know where else to put this so I will put it here, I will be making a nazi flag for my PzKpfw II 1/72 scale, and I would like to know how to do the markings??? I know it is a red flag with a white circle, and the swastika in the middle, I just dont know how to paint the circle and crooked cross to be picture perfect... any ideas???
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:57 PM
PS> the flag is going to be for arieal recognition.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:09 PM
The Swastika will be quiet easy I think.

Look on the Net for either an Ura or Omote Manji image, many images available, this will give you an idea for the dimensions.

Ura and Omote Manji are the same symbol in mirror image to represent different sides of the same thing(think Yin/Yang).
The Germans tipped the Swastika onto the tip(rotated it 45 degrees),
hence the Hackenkreuz is NOT a true Swastika.

Best way to do the flag i would say would be with blank coloured decal sheet(your LHS should stock a selection of those):
Red Decal rectangular for Flag
White Decal circle
Swastiak cut from black Decal

Funnily enough no bad image was associated with the Swastika till WW II, prior to that it was an often used image(US Boy Scouts, etc).
It is originally thought to be an ancient buddhist symbol, but can be found in many cultures.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:31 PM
I have blank decal sheets somewhere, its just I dont know how to use them so the ink from the printer would not run... I am a pretty good artist, do you think I could make the red flag and white circle and then draw the swastika in with a sharpie marker??? (not that that takes much art talent)
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Posted by shermanfreak on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:42 PM
Here's how I did one.
I used a simple piece of paper. Painted it white in the center area, masked a circle in the middle and painted the rest of the flag red. Then I used a decal from an aircraft sheet to complete the flag. I then laid the flag where I wanted it and contoured it to fit the model. A little dab of white glue to hold it in place and voila !!!
A little dust with the weathering on the kit and she looks pretty good.
It's still looking good 15 years after the model was built.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by @FrozzzenColorado88

I have blank decal sheets somewhere, its just I dont know how to use them so the ink from the printer would not run...


Depends on what printer and Decal sheet you got, I think the decal sheets for Inkjets need to sealed after printing with a special sealer.

I use an Alps with Microdry decal sheets(designed for my printer) and don't need a sealer as the inks are water-proof. I can hold a freshly printed sheet(any paper) under running water and it won't do anything.
Big Smile [:D]


QUOTE:
I am a pretty good artist, do you think I could make the red flag and white circle and then draw the swastika in with a sharpie marker??? (not that that takes much art talent)


You could do that as well. Pity, that you are over there otherwise I would recommend to print directly onto Washi(rice paper), this is semi-transparent and has a nice texture to it.

Many of the Model Kits over here come with just such flags.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:59 PM
Punch up Google image search, type in "swastika flag", select image at bottom right of first page, save, resize in Imaging, Photoshop, Picture It! or whatever image processing you have and print. Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:08 AM
I got a kit for Xmas a few years back. Tamaya, the vehicle Rommel used I believe. They had a picture of a 1:35 nazi flag so you had the right proportions.
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Posted by maddafinga on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MadModelFactory

The Swastika will be quiet easy I think.

Look on the Net for either an Ura or Omote Manji image, many images available, this will give you an idea for the dimensions.

Ura and Omote Manji are the same symbol in mirror image to represent different sides of the same thing(think Yin/Yang).
The Germans tipped the Swastika onto the tip(rotated it 45 degrees),
hence the Hackenkreuz is NOT a true Swastika.

Best way to do the flag i would say would be with blank coloured decal sheet(your LHS should stock a selection of those):
Red Decal rectangular for Flag
White Decal circle
Swastiak cut from black Decal

Funnily enough no bad image was ******ociated with the Swastika till WW II, prior to that it was an often used image(US Boy Scouts, etc).
It is originally thought to be an ancient buddhist symbol, but can be found in many cultures.


The American Indians in this area used it as a symbol for the thunderbird, and the local national guard unit here used is as their unit insignia until ww2. I saw a picture once of a girls hockey team from Canada, taken sometie in the 20's, every girl had a huge swastica on the front of her sweater. Hitler and the Nazi's really put an end to a pretty universal symbol. He did the same for that hair style and mustache as well. He was not a likeable guy.
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:12 AM
In college...media law class I believe, we were talking about symbols and what they mean now as to what they used to mean or what they mean in other cultures. My Prof showed us where the swastika used to be a peace symbol right up until somebody decided it would make a cool political party flag....Big Smile [:D] go figure...

As for the flag you want to make...these guys have pretty much covered it...
Good Luck
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:24 AM
Okay, I can't resist this.... At the end of the war, wasn't the Nazi flag always white?

Bu-dum-bum... ching.

Lots of good info for any type of flag though. I like the rice paper idea! Any art or crafts store should have some. If not, look up NASCO on the web and they'll have it.

Ron.
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Posted by r13b20 on Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:22 PM
UGH!! Ron, naughty-naughty! LOL
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Posted by nmayhew on Monday, January 19, 2004 4:24 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Poniatowski

Okay, I can't resist this.... At the end of the war, wasn't the Nazi flag always white?

Bu-dum-bum... ching.

Lots of good info for any type of flag though. I like the rice paper idea! Any art or crafts store should have some. If not, look up NASCO on the web and they'll have it.

Ron.


no, because the french had used them all up 4 and a half years earlier!!Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

seriously @FrozzzenColorado88, try archers dry transfers, as these guys specialise in all this kind of stuff!!!

here's the link:
http://www.archertransfers.com/AR72197B.html

all you have to do is paint a small red panel and put the transfer on, and there you go!!Smile [:)]
i've used these guys before and they're pretty prompt and helpful.

hope this helps,Big Smile [:D]
nick
Kind regards, Nicholas
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 19, 2004 1:16 PM
Thanks all for your help, I think I will get ahold of some of those dry transfers.
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