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    January 2011
Anti-Tank / Artillery help!
Posted by Flibby on Sunday, January 23, 2011 3:26 PM

I know that this is a bit obscure but i'm hoping there's a buff out there that may help me!

I am wondering if anyone knows the detail of the firing mechanisms in pieces such as the Flak
43/Pak 38 etc or other sliding block.

What i would most like to know, is how the firing pin is set, and how the handle releases the same. For example, i understand that some artillery is of a 'continuous pull' variety, and essentially the firing level pulls the firing pin back and fires in one go, however often when watching videos of the Eastern Front, the Flak 88's fire with very little movement on the firing lever, that would seem to be that perhaps this system is different and perhaps the cocking is done automatically. I have also seen something which indicates that a push button is used to release the sear, however it does not indicate how this works exactly.

I was also wondering if anybody has instructions on the re-loading/firing process, or any relevant diagrams etc.

Sorry about any poor English

Many thanks in advance,

Flibby

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Oromocto, Canada
Posted by Gun Tech on Sunday, January 23, 2011 7:32 PM

I do have pictures of a few guns that I took in CFB Borden in the past years.  I have a few of a 37mm PaK 36, 50mm PaK 38, 75mm PaK 40, 75mm PaK 97/38, 105mm leFH18, 150mm sFH18, 76.2mm PaK 36(r).

I'm sure that I also have a few of a Puppchen and a 28mm Anti-Tank kicking round somewhere...

 

You just want the firing mechanism details?

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

  • Member since
    January 2011
Posted by Flibby on Monday, January 24, 2011 1:10 AM

Yes please that would be fantastic, i'm just trying to work out the finer details of how they are fired Smile

  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Monday, January 24, 2011 5:48 AM

There was a thread a while back that went into great detail regarding the firing mechanism of the German Pac 40 75mm anti tank gun. I cannot remember the threads name, I believe it was regarding a Marder II and got side tracked on this topic. 

If someone can post the link its all the information you need on the firing mechanism.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Oromocto, Canada
Posted by Gun Tech on Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:20 PM

Sorry for not following up on this......    I was called by work to sort out  a few important things and just came back home last night.

 

I will take a closer look at my pictures over the weekend and post few .

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:31 PM

For anti-tank guns such as the PaK 36, 38 or 40, the firing mechanism consisted of a push-button on the elevation wheel that was operated by the gunner on the left side of the gun. The push-button was connected by a bowden cable to the ignition box mounted on the left side of the gun cradle below the recoil sled rail which in turn was connected to the firing pin/ignition mechanism inside the breech. The reason you don't see pull lanyards used for these types of weapons is the need for the gun to be very accurate and once laid on the target, the gunner needed to be able to quickly and precisely fire the weapon and be able to see how the round went down range so he could adjust accordingly as the gun crew reloaded. It wasn't uncommon for 4-5 rounds to be used before scoring a hit based on reading field reports and training manuals, especially if they were shooting at a moving target such as an advancing tank.  HTH! Beer

Pics below are out of Nuts & Bolts #18 and are posted for discussion purposes only.

 

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