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King Tiger gun question
Posted by panzer88 on Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:48 PM

I see that a fair amount of german armor has travel locks for their guns (panthers,jagdtigers,some model of stugs,jagdpanzer,..) externally on the hull and I know some had internal ones(? I think I read that somewhere). Did the King Tiger have an internal travel lock for the gun or no? For a side project I'm working on.Whistling 

     

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:14 PM

I don't recall ever seeing an external travel lock on a King Tiger, no...  Just finished going through a few dozen photos of 'em I have and didn't spot one in any of them either..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:35 PM

Nah...  I mean, that'd be.... Nah...

You serious G, or you yankin' m' chain?

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Posted by panzer88 on Monday, January 31, 2011 8:16 AM

Thanks for the input guys, but I was asking if it had an internal lock  in the turret to help hold the gun from bouncing around during transit/travel.

     

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2011 8:32 AM

Internal lock:  yes...

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2011 10:11 AM

I'm guessing that was for rail transport purposes.  

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2011 10:14 AM

From an on-line discussion of the wooden device you have seeen:

This is actaully a bit odd. IIRC both the Panzer IV, Panther and Tiger I & II had internal travel locks for the gun and the Panther was the only one to have a fixed, external lock as well (why?). Why would the Tiger II need a removable, external travel lock like the one apparently seen on the photo?
All pictures I can recall of Tiger IIs travelling either by road or by rail does not show this device in use and I've looked at a bunch of Tiger II pictures and only this one actually shows the device - and only on some of the tanks. If it was something you would commonly use, then one would think you'd see it in use more often?

Looking at Tiger IIs travelling on the road or on rail-cars, it would seem, that once the internal lock was engaged, the weapon would be in a rather elevated position, as you can see on the first picture. My guess would be, that in some cases, you would need the gun to rest in a lowered position and in order not to damage the elevation gears, a temporary rest would be used like in the attached picture.

Anyway, I came across one picture which appears to show something like this "gun lock" (perhaps rather a gun rest) in use. It seems to be resting on the ball mount, supporting the gun.

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