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Rattle can Panzer question

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:19 PM
Larry-

I squirt a little pile of graphite on a piece of paper then apply it using Q-tips. I vary the amount of pressure on the Q-tip until I get the results I like.

Glenn
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Posted by Spamicus on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:15 PM
Larry I just squirt out a small pile of powdered graphite on a napkin or such and pick a bit up on my finger and rub it where I want it. Have to be careful of small fragile stuff, but muzzles, gun mantlets etc. no problem.

Steve

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Michaelvk

What I sometimes use for my charring is some charcoal dust.. If you want a sooty deposit, why not apply with a sooty deposit? Use in a similair way as you would with a pastel.


Michael, definitely more than one way to skin a cat.

I guess I could just put a flat coat on the tank, and then sprinkle on the charcoal dust. Sounds pretty similar to the pastel chalk method I was considering.

If I'm using pastel dust on the model, I have to set it, as my models get handled a decent bit.

Thanks. I have to ponder all of this, preferably in the Lotus position.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:09 AM
What I sometimes use for my charring is some charcoal dust.. If you want a sooty deposit, why not apply with a sooty deposit? Use in a similair way as you would with a pastel.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:58 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by beav

What to do to warm up a room! Douse it in Gasoline, and light a match in there. It should become warm enough for all of your purposes.


Thanks, but I think I'll leave methods like that to you.
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Posted by beav on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:40 AM
What to do to warm up a room! Douse it in Gasoline, and light a match in there. It should become warm enough for all of your purposes.

"First to Fire!"

Steven

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:59 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 53ryder

Larry-
Use what I use to blacken any muzzle...powered graphite. You should be able to find it in any hardware store.

Glenn


Interesting suggestion on the graphite, you guys.

Here's a stupid question. How does the graphite get applied to the muzzle? How does it look when it is applied?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:43 PM
Larry-
Use what I use to blacken any muzzle...powered graphite. You should be able to find it in any hardware store.

Glenn

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Posted by Spamicus on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:32 PM
If you're worried about the lay of the paint from the can check out FSM December 2003. There's a great article on how to use spray cans for a beautiful finish on a car. Use graphite for your muzzle, you can get a tube that'll last you forever from any shop that sells Pine Car supplies.

Steve

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Posted by RAF120 on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:57 PM
Lately I've been using nothing but rattle cans to base coat my armor. I feel I get a nice finish out of them. Your most likely going to wash, drybrush, and weather the thing anyway.
Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mark956

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I agree with Muzzleflash post some pictures when finished
mark956


You got it -- by hook or by crook I will get pix taken when the build is done. Smile [:)]

Mark, send your emoticon back to school. Laugh [(-D] (Anyone know what I am referring to?)
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Posted by mark956 on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:06 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I agree with Muzzleflash post some pictures when finished
mark956
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:07 PM
(rattle rattle rattle) psssssssssst, pssssssst, psssssst.

I'm sure it will look fine, post pics when you are done.
:)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk


I'm a firm believer that beautiful models can be created without an airbrush.


We'll see! But thanks for the words of encouragement. I'll probably start laying the colors on tonight ....
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:51 AM
I didn't even have an airbrush until five years ago, and I never let that stop me!
Here's what I'd do:
Exactly what you said you were gonna do. Sounds good to me!
You can get a lot of nice subtle effects of gradation and whatnot simply with multiple drybrushings and scrubbings of various shades of the base color.

Heck, even these days, if I'm doing a single-color vehicle, and the color I need is in a can, I'll blast away with the can first and take it from there with the AB. Even with camo, I'm still inclined to lay down the base color with a can (again, if available) and AB on the rest.

I'm a firm believer that beautiful models can be created without an airbrush.
I do love my Tamiya HG Trigger AB, though...I hope it's not reading this post...don't want to hurt it's feelings after all these years of fine service!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:06 AM
PUT ON MORE WARM CLOTHES!! Always use your air brush, try to warm the room...

Forget about panther and rattle cans together. If you were modeling a one color car that's fine. One color armor needs a subtle application of paint, sometimes even more then a tricolor german camo. why dont you hold it off and wait for warmer days. I dont think you will not be happy with the result... think about the money spent.

Hope everything will tern out right for you, cheers!
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:23 AM
As long as the pastel dust is also covering the groundwork, so that the model fits in... They come in so many shades you'll always find the one you need!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:56 AM
For the dust too, eh dj? Interesting! Will keep it in mind. Thanks.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:54 AM
same for the muzzle and exhaust.. by the way!
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:54 AM
for the dust, you could always use ground up pastel chalk...
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Rattle can Panzer question
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:45 AM
It's too cold for me to use my airbrush and compressor in the work area in my house where I usually paint. Brrr!

So this forces me to use rattle cans to paint my Panther for the group build-up. Advantages: 1) the Panther I am building is all-yellow anyway; 2) dispensing with all the ritual of getting ready and then cleaning up. Disadvantages: 1) color limitations, 2) poor application of paint compared to the control of an airbrush, 3) inability to get certain effects an airbrush allows.

Anyway, there it is! Any suggestions on methods or colors? I have a can of Tamiya dark yellow anyway. I have the Eduard masks for early panther wheels, so I will problably shoot the wheels dark grey (for the tires -- I usually mix my own, and make it very, very dark grey), put the tire masks on, then paint the wheels the dark yellow.

My local hobby shop has a decent selection of colors, so any ideas on a tire color (I mean specific brands and colors)? Another thing is that I won't be able to shoot the dust on the tank. Drybrushing?

My thought now is to put the yellow on the tank (am back and forth on whether to blackprime first -- my gut is telling me no, because the paint will be going on thicker than I am accustomed to), then give it a few washes, then a highlight drybrush, then put some crud on.

Ideas? How am I going to blacken the muzzle? Aren't there folks who use pastels for that?
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