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2cm Flak38
Posted by Chazzer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:28 AM

I'm building the above model and I think the seats are padded(bottom and back support) I just received the new FSM and they have a picture in there and I think it's made of leather. Does anyone have any thoughts or has anyone built the kit? I'm padding with milliput and I am  trying to build straight from the box (my first build in 9 years).

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:47 AM

http://www.lavenderink.org/boink/boinksplash.gif

http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/2cm8.jpgLooks like a metal seat there......

    For more pics..........click.......      http://www.jerrysartarama.com/IMAGES/gift-guide/interface/buttons/learn-more-button.jpg

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 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:55 AM

disastermaster

http://www.lavenderink.org/boink/boinksplash.gif

http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/2cm8.jpgLooks like a metal seat there......

    For more pics..........click.......      http://www.jerrysartarama.com/IMAGES/gift-guide/interface/buttons/learn-more-button.jpg

                                          http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_1-Animated-Disastermaster.gif?t=1296616998

It could also be made of plastic or wood too (the seat that is). And since that is a restoration piece it might not even be a accurate seat.

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The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Chazzer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:55 AM

Holy smokes!!!! What a great resource!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS ALOT!Surprise

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Posted by Geist on Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:53 PM

I took this pic this past summer at the Berlin Deuthsches Technisches Museum.

 

 

There was a Flak 38 at the Panzer Museum Munster as well. I don't have a good pic of it but I believe it was leather wrapped as well.

 

 

Erik

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:43 PM

Good picture Erik

 You have to wonder why they would use leather to cover a seat that more than likely would be constantly exposed to the elements.

 An original picture would be helpful here because as noted, restorations are sometimes inaccurate. Because of the open nature of this weapon, I would lean toward a painted metal seat; the drain-lightening holes make sense.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_1-Animated-Disastermaster.gif?t=1296616998

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Geist on Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:16 PM

I would assume they were leather wrapped for comfort of the gun crew. I wouldn't want to sit directly on the metal seat in the dead of a Russian winter.

 

I'm looking for period photos, but none of them are clear enough to tell weither the seat was covered or not.

Erik

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:38 PM

Geist

I would assume they were leather wrapped for comfort of the gun crew. I wouldn't want to sit directly on the metal seat in the dead of a Russian winter.

Erik

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..........and then, that's a good point too.

       http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_1-Animated-Disastermaster.gif?t=1296616998

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:22 PM

Geist

I would assume they were leather wrapped for comfort of the gun crew. I wouldn't want to sit directly on the metal seat in the dead of a Russian winter.

 

I'm looking for period photos, but none of them are clear enough to tell weither the seat was covered or not.

Erik

 

Not to meantion sitting on those metal seats while it was sitting in the desert sun either.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:09 PM

Just my 2 cents but there is a good possibility that nobody is right and nobody is wrong.

maybe different production runs, batches and cut backs due to war shortages as the war went on.

 

Terry.

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Posted by WallyM3 on Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:16 PM

terry35

Just my 2 cents but there is a good possibility that nobody is right and nobody is wrong.

maybe different production runs, batches and cut backs due to war shortages as the war went on.

 

Terry.

Probably worth less (1¢), but maybe they slapped the leather seats on not expecting that the rig would last all that long anyway.

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:31 PM

WallyM3

 

 terry35:

 

Just my 2 cents but there is a good possibility that nobody is right and nobody is wrong.

maybe different production runs, batches and cut backs due to war shortages as the war went on.

 

Terry.

 

 

Probably worth less (1¢), but maybe they slapped the leather seats on not expecting that the rig would last all that long anyway.

 

True.

 

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Posted by JohanT on Sunday, February 13, 2011 7:22 AM

The picture bellow is from Prime Portal and shared by Carl Dennis.
This one is padded.

This is a German 20mm Flak 38 on a Sd.Ah.51 Trailer. This is a late war gun fitted with gearboxes on the elevation & traverse hand wheels. It was photographed at the Royal Museum of the Army and Military History, Brussels.


Very Best Regards
Johan

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Posted by Chazzer on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:28 AM

 Tank 2 Tanks to all of you! I'm going to try the black, faded and weathered seat using milliput.


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