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I came accross this picture while trying to find some photos of a lorraine 38L, as I've been working on one for a while (RPM with PE and friuls)... The photo caption says: "UE(f), Beobachtungspanzer UE(f), Lorraine 38L and 10.5cm auf Lorraine. most of these tanks were used on the eastern front and after the DDay in Normandy."
So I thought this could be an interesting camo scheme.... but what colors are these? White over german grey??? also was this particular scheme used on the eastern front or in Normandy? (i assume if it is indeed white it was used on the Eastern front?)...
Thank you for your help!
The photo was obtained here: http://www.ww2incolor.com/german-armor/UE_f__+Beobachtungspanzer+UE_f__+Lorraine+38L+and+10.html
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I'd bet German Gray with Panzer Yellow camo stripes.
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Steven
Green over dark yellow...
There isn't any real evidence in the pic to suggest either Winter or Eastern Front. They look in fact to be sporting a fresh paint job of Dunkelgelb and most likely Olivegrun disruptive pattern. It looks much more like the schemes for Normandy vs. the Eastern Front (especially when you look a little closer at the uniforms the various crews are wearing...the grass in the fields...the full foliage on the trees in the background...all looks like summer to me). Due to difficulty in keeping these vehicles running and the need to be close to the supply stores for spare parts, these vehicles very rarely served outside of the French zone. If I had to hazard a guess, I would say these are artillery units on a training exercise and not in a combat zone...it was very common for units to rotate to France for organization or refit and to train on gear like this before being shipped out to an active front where they would receive different equipment. It is interesting to see the 10.5cm leFH fitted to the Lorraines, that's a modification I didn't know about previously.
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These are from Normandy and belong to the 21st Panzer Division...
Yep, part of Becker's wacky but effective set of cobbled-together designs I bet. Interestingly enough the info on them belonging to 21st Pz Div is on the same page that Ryan got the photo off of, just needed to scroll down a bit more to see it.
I was under the impression that the majority of the French armor stayed in France more or less for occupation duty and such.
*After checking out Achtungpanzer's site, it appears that they did go East and eventually returned to fight in France.
Eric
The only real deployment of Lorraine chassis German vehicles were some Marder Is to the East and a few sfH13 10.5cm to Africa. Given this assortment (note the UE tractors behind), I'm with Manny -- this is France. I'd also say dk grun over dk gelb
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Not trying to hijack the thread but I have to ask...What the heck are those 1st 2 vehicles?
More on point... I can see the call out for yellow with green of gray, but what is the light color criss-crossing the 1st vehicle?
Marc
wing_nut Not trying to hijack the thread but I have to ask...What the heck are those 1st 2 vehicles? More on point... I can see the call out for yellow with green of gray, but what is the light color criss-crossing the 1st vehicle?
The cloesest one up is a lorraine 37L or 38L (I can't tell the difference as I've found sooooo many conflicting sources as to which is which), and the second vehicle in is a renault UE.
I agree that this picture is in France.... I think that a green and yellow camo sounds very reasonable... And I personally think it looks like the colors criss-crossing the front of the first vehicle are the same as the colors on the rear, but they just look lighter because the armor is angled there, thus reflecting more light.
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