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Painting and repainting procedure for tanks (mostly panzer)

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  • Member since
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  • From: Spokane, WA
Posted by Hun Hunter on Sunday, May 1, 2011 2:48 AM

That's the beauty of armor... you can always just say, "the crew didn't have time in the field" or "like they had time to follow procedure during Kursk!"

 

Fudge room, I'm also kind of lazy.

There are some that call me... Nash

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:26 PM

And that's why German armor is so "interesting" Herr Feld Marschall. Wink Beer

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 29, 2011 7:16 AM

Yes...and no...

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:55 AM

While there isn't a "one size fits all" answer to this, there were standard procedures followed for the delivery of parts and acceptance of those parts (and vehicles) at the depots prior to their shipment out to the units in the field. There were also standard procedures for handling of spare parts and painting of vehicles in the field.

Parts that were delivered from one manufacturer to another as part of the overall assembly process were delivered in red oxide primer (exceptions were gun barrels, those were delivered in a grey heat-resistant lacquer/primer). It's not commonly known that most German vehicles for example would have the hulls produced by one manufacturer, the turrets by another, and the guns by a third for example...with final assembly taking place with a potential fourth manufacturer if not one of the other three involved. Upon final assembly, the vehicles would be painted according to the standing orders of the day for vehicle schemes prior to delivery to the depots and acceptance by the Waffenamt inspectors. Spare parts were typically shipped to the field depots in primer only and would have been painted by the crews in the field to match their vehicle when they were installed depending on the part in question (i.e. spare road wheel).

Once the vehicles were issued to the field, it was up to the field units to maintain their vehicles. Paint and paint equipment (spray guns) were issued in quantity and vehicles were typically maintained by the crews for minor touch ups and application of camo schemes over the dunkelgelb basecoat before the introduction of three tone factory-applied schemes in late '44.

Any time a vehicle was sent back to the depots or to the factories for repair or rebuild, the vehicle would be refurbished (depending on circumstances), brought up to standard to the extent possible for the vehicle in question, repainted and re-issued to the depots to once again be sent out to the units in the field for service.

That's a high level view of the process. As with anything German related in WW2, you can never say "never" or "always" as exceptions abound on a case-by-case basis. HTH! Beer

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:58 AM

Thanks for the input, highly valued.

Andrew

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Posted by EasyMike on Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:49 AM

malone duke
...There's no defining answer for this one...

 

I agree.  Use what works for you.

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Posted by malone duke on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:55 PM
There's no defining answer for this one. It all depends on the vehicle. So on one hand you have field applied paint. No primer. Then there are vehicles that were sent back to the factory to be refitted. In this case they would have parts that were added that would most likely have had primer. So in the case of a pz 3 that were steadily up armored you could do a mismatch of scratches where most of the tank is panzer grey and the front add on armor done in primer. And as far as camo it all depends on the unit. Check references on this. So. Eastern front units constantly in battle aren't gonna care if paint matches. Western front when the fighting was light to nonexistent would care more for the appearance of their vehicles. Hence the almost pretty appearance of some of those vehicles before they were shot up. Hope that helps.

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  • From: Hobart, Tasmania
Painting and repainting procedure for tanks (mostly panzer)
Posted by Konigwolf13 on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:32 PM

Ok so I know the basics vehicle WWII panzer painting. Parts were usually pre/undercoated prior assembly, post assembly they vehicle was base coated in say panzer gray for 1941. From here my questions start.

When repainting was/are there any specific prior to slapping on new coat? Or was it just a case of wash it down and re-coat, was/is the whole tank repainted at same time.

When going from panzer gray to gelb, normal procedure was to overpaint entire tank then apply other colours?

When repainting a camo vehicle did the try an stay close original applied marking?

Andrew

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