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  • Member since
    May 2004
  • From: Kings Mountain, NC
Need help, My models have gone all frosty
Posted by modelbuilder on Friday, May 13, 2011 3:04 PM

I was getting a group of models ready for tomorrows show in Raleigh NC. I washed them to remove any dust and such. Let them air dry overnight. When I started packing them up for the trip I noticed patches of "frost" on them. What has caused this and CAN IT BE FIXED?

  • Member since
    November 2004
  • From: Cat Central, NC
Posted by Bronto on Friday, May 13, 2011 3:19 PM

What type of clear coat did you use on it?  If it was acrylic then chances are the washing "blushed" the clear coat.  It may disappear if you apply another coat of clear.

  • Member since
    May 2004
  • From: Kings Mountain, NC
Posted by modelbuilder on Friday, May 13, 2011 3:52 PM

Thanks Bronto

I used Future to give them a gloss for decals then Model Master Flat lacquer over that. I guess I missed some areas with the flat and the Future "blushed". I suspected another coat of Flat would fix. Got a test subject under the lights now

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: San Francisco, CA
Posted by telsono on Friday, May 13, 2011 4:26 PM

Testor's Dullcote is known to do this. It seems to be a function of temperature and relative humidity.

Mike T.

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  • Member since
    May 2004
  • From: Kings Mountain, NC
Posted by modelbuilder on Sunday, May 15, 2011 8:42 PM

What does everyone here in the armor forum use for flat dull coat?

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    September 2009
  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Monday, May 16, 2011 5:19 AM

I use Vallejo Matt & Gloss in the dropper bottles and they go a long way.

They are both milky in colour and I mix 6 parts flat coat to 4 parts water in the AB cup. It works great and the matt coat is especially good. It's touch dry in 5 minutes so I do several light passes to get a good build up - especially when using the gloss.

I also use Humbrol Rattlecan matt spray for a quick shot on figures but remember that this is solvent based so make sure your paint has had a good 36 hours to fully cure (at least imo). I used to use it on my builds but it was darkening the paint quite badly. I don't use Future/Klear (for the record).

If you don't have an AB then acrylic rattlecan flat coats are available too from Vallejo.

Hope this helps,

Ben Toast

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  • Member since
    May 2004
  • From: Kings Mountain, NC
Posted by modelbuilder on Monday, May 16, 2011 2:21 PM

Ive seen some guys on youtube mixing Tamiya flat with the paint then spraying through the airbrush. They claim this gives an absolute dead flat finish. Any of you guys ever heard of this?

  • Member since
    November 2004
  • From: Cat Central, NC
Posted by Bronto on Monday, May 16, 2011 2:59 PM

Yes.  Tamiya Flat BASE is not a clear flat coat.  It is designed to be mixed with their gloss paints (both clear and colored) to make them flat.  I have used it many times.

  • Member since
    May 2004
  • From: Kings Mountain, NC
Posted by modelbuilder on Monday, May 16, 2011 3:56 PM

Interesting, can it be mixed with other brands of paint? I used to paint strictly with enamels but recently started using acrylics and love the ease of used and the fact they are safer. Really like the Vallejo and Polly Scale lines.

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Monday, May 16, 2011 4:38 PM

Don't know about other paints but it can be mixed with future to make a beautiul finish, anywhere from satin to dead flat.


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