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Trumpeters T-62 Mod. 72 - WIP

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  • Member since
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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, April 9, 2012 3:13 PM

Bill,
Thank you for stopping by and for good advice!
While I was looking around I found this, Miniarm have an update set that sort of kills competition...
Check it out here;
http://miniarm.com/index.php?menu=acc 

Tony,
Just check this space :)
After a long wait the compressor is finally up and running :)

Very Best Regards
Johan

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Uppsala, Sweden
Posted by bultenibo on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:40 AM

Nice!

You're building the Cold war "Arch enemy" to Strv 103. Looking forward to see it take form!

 

/Bultenibo

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    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:48 PM


Andy, happy to hear you enjoyed your stay here in Gothenburg:)
I hope you did find time to visit the maritime museum as well!
If not I'll guide you next time around!

Bill, thank you for the link, the order is in.
The more I look at the reference pictures I have the more convinced I am that i got this wrong or misread Trumpeters instructions.
The elevating springs are just to far apart in what I did.

Thank you for stopping by Big Smile

Johan

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Monday, February 27, 2012 4:38 PM

RB Models has just announced a brass 1/35 Dshk MG and has it available for sale on their website for 3.97 Euros. http://www.rbmodel.com/index.php?action=products&cat=c_bm&sub=35B It's second from the bottom (they post their new items at the bottom of the page for some reason). HTH!

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, February 27, 2012 1:35 PM

Johan, you might like this because I had to ask.  My family and I visited your city Gothenburg for few days during our trip to Denmark two years ago.  Great children museum!  It rained and rained for two days unfortunately so that's why we spent most of our time at the museums.  Big Smile

Looking forward to your next update! Yes

Andy

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, February 27, 2012 1:27 PM

Andy,
Thank you for your kind comment, yes - I am situated in Gothenburg Sweden.
+5 Celsius here yesterday but snow again today.
At least the birds are back :)

Thank you for stopping by Big Smile
Johan 

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:37 PM

Looking great! Wish I can help you about. Russian AA aftermarket.  Are you located in Sweden?  

Andy

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:54 PM

Hi again,
Another weekend with only very limited progress.
I managed to break the compressors air regulator in the move and am fresh out of canned air.
So only some minor work on the turret completed.

Primed up the aluminium barrel.
According to some postings the barrel has to small a diameter so I am taking that to work to drill it out tomorrow.

The AA gun was a nightmare. The gun itself is detailed enough but the elevating system has no clear attachment points and the gun is not centred when sandwiched between parts...just realized that the instructions are in the old flat Indifferent
I am still not sure I am happy with the result.
Anyone who knows about an aftermarket part? 

 

Comments and criticism welcome as always Big Smile

Very Best Regards
Johan 

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    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:25 PM

Bill,
Thanks for taking interest and your kind comment Big Smile

Very much appreciated! 
Johan 

  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:18 PM

Hi again,
It has been a while since I managed to get any time with this build, we have been moving houses and I am still struggling to find my ways around...
But I'm getting there Stick out tongue

Anyway, here is a short update.

Never been much of a soldering man but I will pick up.
Failed miserably on the bracket and decided to scratch it...


And here it is mounted on the turret, managed to get some XF-5 on the hull in the same go, at this stage this is only to check for flaws in the assembly so far.

Front view


Close view
 

Thank you for taking interest, your comments and criticism is very welcome as always! 

Very Best Regards
Johan 

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Monday, January 23, 2012 5:33 PM

Can't help on the fuel drum issue unfortunately but can say nice job on the detail work that you're adding. Beer

  • Member since
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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, January 23, 2012 7:45 AM

Hi again,

I am a bit stuck atm, since we are moving houses my gear is al over the place.
Good new is that I found a couple of "bonus kits" stashed away in the cellar since 1994 :)

I am coming back to the fuel drums on the T62.
Would anyone have any reference photos or even just be able to confirm if those drums where connected with any sort of piping to the main hull?

Here are 2 pictures of T-72 with the piping used on this version - pretty much the same as on the later T-90.

Rear View

Picture by Azrael Raven, Prime Portal

Detail of the adapter

Picture by Andre Patschke, Prime Portal

I have found nothing on T-55 or T-62?

Your advice on this would be very much appreciated, thanks in advance!

Very Best Regards
Johan

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    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:43 PM

Rob,
thanks again for taking interest and providing me with these great reference shots - the bracket is actually there - only just visible at 3 o'clock.

It's been a while now - we are moving houses and there is just no time atm Tongue Tied

But here is some progress;
As I said earlier I wanted to give the kit the missing piping so I started to bend some brass wire

While I was at it I wanted to do something about the birdcage around the front headlight as well, truly inspired by K-Dawg Stick out tongue

 

And this is how it looks on the wagon

Your comments and criticism are welcome as usual 

Very Best Regards
Johan

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:37 AM

I think it was for when the AA machine gun was not mounted and stored for transport. But again, I am not sure. This photo does not have that bracket.

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:57 PM

Thanks Rob,
Initially I thought it could be part of the fording equipment but the angle of the tubular lock made no sense to me.


I guess the full hatch assembly needs to traverse to get it into position.

Thanks for pointing out the right direction Rob Big Smile

Very Best Regards
Johan 

  • Member since
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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, December 30, 2011 3:13 PM

The bracket is bent out of position, but I believe it kept the machine gun in place while not being used.

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Friday, December 30, 2011 10:26 AM

Hi again,

first of all please excuse the bad quality of the pictures pointed out by several, unfortunately even this is a question of learning by doing and I am afraid that I am in the start of the process Propeller

I will use some more background light and a camera with a wider optic, but I am afraid that the problem is behind the camera Embarrassed

Anyway,
here is today's headache, the cage for the headlights just does not look the part.
So I am closing the holes in the front and will try some more wire bending...


And I need to reach out to this community for help again;
Does anyone have a reference that shows if the barrels on the back have a piping connection to the main body.
The T-90 certainly does have this and ZVEZDA acutually provide this which I will use as reference if nothing else is available.

Secondly I wonder if anyone knows what this bracket does? Any ideas, I am stuck atm...


As always, your comments and criticism are welcome.

Very Best Regards

Johan

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, December 26, 2011 10:14 AM

 

Rob, Jeff, Zokissima,

Thank you for taking interest, your comments are very much appreciated :)

Been busy with the preparations for Santa's annual visit last week but I will do what I can to bring this in on time for an update in Tigerman's thread.

Anyway, here are a couple of pictures to show the progress to date;

I continued working on the tower and realised to late that there is a small problem with the instructions showing the right hand tie down brackets welded on to close to the spent shell ejection hatch.

This is a refernce picture from Rob's link showing the correct position



I removed and repositioned and started to fill the grab handle holes with SG.

 

 

The turret sits on a widened part of the lower tube where a rail is welded on, probably to keep gear and feat from getting pulled under.

The area requires some filling so I used some of PE leftower to keep the mounting holes for the rail free from filler.

The upper hull is primed grey and is now about to be preshaded, the lower hull is primed in black waiting for the road wheel assemblies to be completed.

Your comments annd criticism is welcome as allways.

Very Best Regards

Johan

 

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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:32 PM

Nice progress so far.

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  • From: New york
Posted by JEFFB on Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:32 PM

Looks like your off to a good start !  I've always wanted to try my hand on the T-62...would make a great load for my upcoming Maz-537G.

Keep up the great work!

Jeff

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    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, December 17, 2011 9:03 AM

JohanT

The T-62 was the immediate threat the Swedish addressed with the STRV 103, or the S-tank.
The S-tank was infamous for its lack of ability to fire while moving but now I am reading that the T-62 suffered a similar inability, the spent case ejection mechanism only worked when the turret was aligned to the hull.

Very few tanks could accurately fire while on the move. Theoretically, every tank can fire while moving; hitting something other than the ground a mile away is a crap shoot while moving. Especially if the targeted tank is moving.

The M1 was the first US tank to incorporate a complete stabilization system in the design of the tank. Many previous US tanks had a gryo system that would keep the gun generally in the right direction, but the gunner had to fight the controls to keep the sights on the center mass of the target if their tank was moving.

Even the M60A3TTS tanks that were equipped with a stab system usually turned it off and only used it during gunnery for the moving tank engagement.

Accuracy improves exponentially for a tank that fires from the short halt.

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Friday, December 16, 2011 12:29 AM

 

Hi again,

I wanted to share some progress with you on the T62 build so here we go;

Work on the main hull continues - right now I am trying to figure out what part of the electric wiring should be replaced.
The individual tracks have all been cleaned and are ready for the first assembly runs.

I havee also started to work on the turret;

Trumpeter should be acknowledged for trying to protect the fragile hand rails

But unfortunately in my example they had not been very successful

I was going to replace them with wire anyway so here is my first attempt at wire-bending

Then I drilled out the holes in the turret.
Trumpeter do not provide you with a lot of instruction here - "Make a hole"...

- and here is a word of warning. I drilled the holes square to the turret surface sides which basically means that every hole has a different angle to horizontal.
The result is that the rails take a much to steep curve over the turret.

What I should have done is probably to decide on a common angle to horizontal.
I hope to be able to fix some of the mistake after that the LocTite has set.

So fare the build is great fun and I enjoy every moment of it Stick out tongue

I hope to be able to get the latches and lugs in place later today so that I can start preshading the turret when my new Neo arrives from Chicago.

Thanks for stopping by and please comment and crticies :)

Seasonal Greetings

Johan

 

  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:39 AM

Great stuff Hans,
It looks to me as if all 3 canisters where used connected in a series as you would normally do with batteries, which means that the mid one wasn't connected to the the tank fuselage at all.
Many Thanks!

Very Best Regards
Johan 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:32 AM

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 12:18 PM

Thank you for those links Erik.
Very much appreciated and very useful indeed!

Here is a link you might want to check out, its Michael Rinaldis reference pics for his T-62M1 build posted MMI May-11.
http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/pictures?userid={F9F3E062-FE3B-4434-9898-193F749A47C4}&AlbumId={671EE068-EC9C-40F1-B68D-CA06276DC022}&GroupId={5F3B1C46-5C49-4DEE-817C-653345FEAE5D}&nt=g

Amazing build, looking at the pictures in the link Crockett siggy comes to mind;

"In the end it al goes to landfill"... 

Yesterdays's progress was very limited.
I am closing a big gap in the front section between the upper and lower hull plate:


I am also a bit concerned about the drive housing covers, the overlap is a bit alarming:


I guess I should have taken some material out but I did not want to ruin the weld beads.

Still need some advice on those fuel lines :)

Thanks for stopping by!

Very Best Regards
Johan

  • Member since
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  • From: Ohio
Posted by Geist on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 2:03 PM

There are some good pics of the fuel line fittings (minus the lines) and the fuel tank handles here http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=2071

and here

http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1198

EDIT: found some more 

http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?np=3&p=1111

I wish I could find some pics of one that was in service still so we could get a look at the fuel lines.

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 2:42 AM
Hi,
here are some pictures and thoughts on the kit so far;
 
Main components, hull and tower
The turret has some nice cast structure, the mold seems arround the MG port will need some attention
Track links, individual non-working style. This weeks Desperate House Wifes sessions are safe and secured :)
The road wheels with separate "rubber", the black isn't rubber or vinyle but plastic.

 
I won't fix the rear engine plate angel
I won't worry about the missangled turret hatch
Bit I will drill out the barrel
And I will exchange the turret grab handles with wire
...and add some random stuff from the spares box where it seems appropriate...
 
Now to yesterdays 2 main question marks...
#1. Does anyone have a reference picture to the pipe connections - seems to me that this is something that should be added.
2#. One of the build logs that I have read mentions the removal and repositioning of the fuel canister handles. Are the kit ones wrong?

 
As always - happy for any input
Very Best Regards
Johan
  • Member since
    July 2007
  • From: Ohio
Posted by Geist on Friday, December 2, 2011 1:27 PM

The Mod. 72 and the MIG "Taliban T-62M1" conversion set are on my Christmas list. JohanT you should do WIP thread for you Mod. 72. Cool

 

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Friday, December 2, 2011 12:00 PM

Today I got the Russian T62 Mod. 1972.
The box is packed with sprue's and comes with 2 stencil options, a PE freet and a copper tow cable.
You get an optional turned aluminium barrel, separately molded tires and individual links.
There are optional markings for a Russian T-62 in overall green and an Iraq T-62 in sand and light  green.
At the same price as 5 Big-Mac meals.

This looks like a lot of fun :) 

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