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Posted by BaBill212 on Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:34 PM

And a fine job you are doing on it too Carl.....

I'll have to send you some pics of my efforts on that same kit. I believe I have built 3 or 4 back in the day.

 

Bill

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 3, 2011 11:17 PM

Rob , i bought the Testors boxed Pz.1 kit in the early 1980's . Just now building it for a G.B. here . Not a bad little kit .Only took me 30 + years to get around to building .Yes

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, October 3, 2011 10:45 PM

Mikeym_us

 Rob Gronovius:

There is also the Verlinden set made for the Italeri Panzer I command tank. Athough designed for the Italeri kit (or Zvezda rebox), there are plenty of usable items to add to the Dragon kit. It is set #1999.

 

LOL Rob the Panzer I Command tank in Italeri boxing is the Zvezda kit I even have the Italeri rebox of the SU122 M30 Howitzer and the original Zvezda boxing of the Pzr I Command . I do need to get that verlinden set for it and some aftermarket tracks. Does Dragon sell magic tracks for the Pzr. I?

No, you've got it backwards. It was an Italeri kit before it was reboxed by Zvezda. The Italeri Panzer IB goes back to 1979 with the Testors yellow boxing in the US. The command version came out in the 1980s, before the fall of the Berlin Wall and Zvezda was available to the West. I first bought one when I was stationed in Germany (Dec 87 to Dec 90) at a local hobby shop in Weinheim. I lived off post in Weinheim while the BOQs were being renovated and moved on post in Jan 89. I'd estimate the purchase to be sometime during the warmer months of 1988 when I used to walk around the town on Saturdays or US holidays.

Panzer IB review in an old Testors boxing:  http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/it/kit_it_0804.shtml

Zvezda's first kit was the horrendous T-60 Soviet light tank. I've got one of the early issues that states the kit is not for sale outside of the USSR, which dissolved in Dec 1991. Mine came with a fairly nice Soviet Guards hat emblem (that Cookie Sewell helped me identify in the mid 90s). Most early 90s Zvezda kits were Italeri reboxes and a few of their original kits (T-34, BT-5, IS-1 Stalin, M30 122mm).

Here's a 15 year old thread talking about Zvezda kits showing up at Squadron and folks discovering they are reboxed Italeri kits. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.models.scale/browse_thread/thread/dececeddffd2d84a/7d352c2cf133db36?lnk=gst&q=zvezda#7d352c2cf133db36 

Here's an old post by Cookie Sewell who translated the history of Zvezda (dated April 1996, some of us have been active in online modeling discussions for nearly 20 years; Al LaFleche and I first met on AOL's old scale modeling board in the mid 90s). In the article, near the bottom, they talk about waiting for the Italeri Panzer I, M3 Scout Car and Katyusha to add to their line: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.models.scale/browse_thread/thread/5a20ca20215f5c52/5ac8316496a9add7?lnk=gst&q=zvezda#5ac8316496a9add7 

So perhaps the laugh's on you.

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 3, 2011 9:00 PM

It is pretty ! Embarrassed

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Posted by BaBill212 on Monday, October 3, 2011 8:31 PM

,,,,              Hello Mike                     I ordered it from the Verlinden site....

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, October 3, 2011 8:05 PM

Where did you order the verlinden set from?

BaBill212

Carl     Andy             ,,        GB badge humor,,    ha,,,  crack me up

 

Thanks again all,,       for the help. I ordered the Verlinden set yesterday.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by BaBill212 on Monday, October 3, 2011 8:01 PM

Carl     Andy             ,,        GB badge humor,,    ha,,,  crack me up

 

Thanks again all,,       for the help. I ordered the Verlinden set yesterday.

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, October 3, 2011 7:44 PM

Shellback

Yup , thats a very cool G.B. Badge Bill !

And somebody helped me make this cool GB badge?  YOU!  LOL  Thanks again! Beer

Andy

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, October 3, 2011 6:25 PM

Rob Gronovius

There is also the Verlinden set made for the Italeri Panzer I command tank. Athough designed for the Italeri kit (or Zvezda rebox), there are plenty of usable items to add to the Dragon kit. It is set #1999.

LOL Rob the Panzer I Command tank in Italeri boxing is the Zvezda kit I even have the Italeri rebox of the SU122 M30 Howitzer and the original Zvezda boxing of the Pzr I Command . I do need to get that verlinden set for it and some aftermarket tracks. Does Dragon sell magic tracks for the Pzr. I?

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 3, 2011 5:35 PM

Yup , thats a very cool G.B. Badge Bill !

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Posted by BaBill212 on Sunday, October 2, 2011 2:23 PM

Rob and Bob,,, thanks again, I'll check into that Verlinden set too....

Bob, thanks for all the additional info as well... great stuff,, thank you kindly!

Bish,,, I am pretty sure I have some resin radio kits around somewhere....  will dig through the stash and see what is hiding

 

Thanks you all for the help!

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Posted by panzerbob01 on Sunday, October 2, 2011 1:50 PM

Bill:

This is one deja-vu question! I asked about exactly the same thing about 1/2 year back on both T-L and Armorama! I, too want to detail a "kleiner" in the worst way! Stick out tongue Ultimately, what I found out makes sad sense - there is, best I know, exactly one interior kit going for the interior of the Pz 1B command tank; the Verlinden kit made for the Italeri kit of this vehicleSad.

As both the Dragon and Italeri kits are 1/35, and of the same vehicle, the verlinden kit should fit OK. This kit will provide some key bits such as various chairs, radio set (but only one, I think), etc. It also provides the basic stuff on the floor - driver's station, tranny, battery box, drive-line and firewall, plus some other odds and ends.

In most ways, the Pz. 1B was, interior-wise, merely a slightly-stretched Pz.A- same firewall, most floor plates, drive train bits, driver's station, and most interior items. So, from this, there are some options: one could use the floor-level interior parts from one of those Dragon -1B variants (panzerjager, or that machine with the s.IG 33 on top). But that seems like too much sacrifice, to me!

Alternatively, a fine floor-level, vision-devices, etc., set-up can be made using the Tristar 1A or Dragon 1A interior and adding some length to the drive-shaft and some floor-plating...Whistling 

The upper-level stuff can actually be pretty well scratched using the pics of interiors (such few as there are...) and looking at what the verlinden kit supplies up there. Or simply add in the Verlinden stuff and scratch in conduits and bits as you think go in.

I am thinking that I will use a Pz 1A interior from a Dragon or Tristar kit for the lower stuff, scratch in the upper bits (chair, voice-tubes, flag-rack, map table, etc.) using inteior pics as vague guides, and add in a stacked radio set from the Tristar Pz.38 or some other source which come with PE racks that can be doctored a bit. There are various kits where you have little chance of seeing a radio, yet radios and racks are provided...  Natch, adding in power conduits, junction boxes, and head-phones seems to be a way to go!

Cheers!

BobWink

 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:16 AM

Great info,,, thanks guys

Scott / Chaz,,,   thanks pal....    they did a nice job on the design. I know you're working in that same GB...  it will be fun to see how they all turn out.

Andy,,   the size of the badge actually runs close to 1:1 with the tank!   ha!

And,, thanks again to all, for the insight,,         will see if I can find an interior shot of that baby....

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:27 AM

deafpanzer

Bill, I have to object... the badge is way too big!!!  Kidding!  Looking forward to follow another WIP from you.  Despite the fact it is 1:35 in scale, it felt like if I was dealing with 1:72 or 1:48 scale kit when I worked on my Panzer I Ausf A last year... Tongue Tied

Then steer clear of AFV Club's excellent Wiesel kits or most of Fine Molds' IJA tankettes. Very small 1/35 scale kits that are about the size of a 1/72 scale Abrams kit.

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:23 AM

Chazzer

Bill, Love that GB badge!!

Bill, I have to object... the badge is way too big!!!  Kidding!  Looking forward to follow another WIP from you.  Despite the fact it is 1:35 in scale, it felt like if I was dealing with 1:72 or 1:48 scale kit when I worked on my Panzer I Ausf A last year... Tongue Tied

Andy

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:14 AM

There is also the Verlinden set made for the Italeri Panzer I command tank. Athough designed for the Italeri kit (or Zvezda rebox), there are plenty of usable items to add to the Dragon kit. It is set #1999.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:56 AM

ogre, nice find. Theres also an engine set, 121, but that seems to be OOP.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Chazzer on Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:21 AM

Bill, Love that GB badge!!

ChazzerBlack Eye

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Posted by ogrejohn on Sunday, October 2, 2011 6:41 AM

 

The Aber set  35120.

It's for an "A" model but you might be able to make some of it work? As Bish said, you might need a radio set as well.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, October 2, 2011 5:50 AM

I wasn't able to find any interiour sets for my Dragon Pz I Ausf B, so i can't imagine there would be any for yours. Eduard does a set for kit 6222, which i think is the one you have, but it also has no interiour. I would guess the main area to detail would be the box structure on top. I don't know for certain but i would think this would mainly be Radios. If you can get a picture of the inside, this should be pretty easy to do, there are some German radio sets out there.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Pz I Command Detail Set....
Posted by BaBill212 on Sunday, October 2, 2011 5:02 AM

Greetings all....

Would you know of a 35th scale interior detail set for a Pz I command tank?    I am building the Dragon Sk.Kfz. 265 kleine Panzerbefehlswagen I (3 in 1)

The interior detail is a little weak........

I've sniffed around Aber, Lion Roar, etc.....   have had no luck however.

Thanks for any help.

 

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

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