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T-34 Track Question
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:28 PM

So I'm building Dragon's T-34/85 Mod.'44, and noticed the instructions don't provide a number of track links per side.

Not that those numbers are ever accurate (especially as I'm using Friuls), but they're usually within 3-4 links, and I like to have a target in mind.

The Friul set has 170 links, they usually leave around 20 spares, so I'm guessing 150 = 75 per side? But that's just total guesswork...

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Posted by Lundergaard on Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:48 PM

I used the Friuls T-34/85 tracks on my (late) /76.  I cannot remember the number of links exactly (around 76 i think, needs to be even number as there are two tracks) BUT i had enough leftover to use as spare tracks on the tank if i chose to.  Hope that helps?

Andy

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Posted by modelmakerz on Thursday, October 6, 2011 5:52 PM

That sounds about right.

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:12 PM

when I did the Friuls for my Tamiya T34 I kept going till I thought I had enough and ran them through the running gear to see where I was at length wise. If I needed to lengthen it a little I add tracks if I wanted to shorten it I would remove 2 links or 4 till I got it right. But when I got it done I would pull a pin lay it out and then use it to check the length of the set for the other side that I was building

BTW Doogs if you ever do the SWS the tracks for the SWS are similar to the T34 being that it also has the pad link pad arangement like the T34.

DoogsATX

So I'm building Dragon's T-34/85 Mod.'44, and noticed the instructions don't provide a number of track links per side.

Not that those numbers are ever accurate (especially as I'm using Friuls), but they're usually within 3-4 links, and I like to have a target in mind.

The Friul set has 170 links, they usually leave around 20 spares, so I'm guessing 150 = 75 per side? But that's just total guesswork...

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by ogrejohn on Friday, October 7, 2011 2:34 AM

I used 76 kit supplied links per side on my Dragon 1944 model T34/85. You should always have an even number of links.

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, October 8, 2011 6:29 AM

Hey doogs.  Yup, did a bit of head scratching when there was no number for the links.   I put all the road wheels on one side and took a long piece of masking tape and wrapped it around the wheels in a loop like it was track.  Left it just a very tiny  bit loose on top for a little sag. Make a cut in the tape and you got the perfect "ruler" for the length.

Marc  

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:54 AM

Well, i figure since I'm doing two runs I'd go ahead and try 76 as a starting point. Yikes! There's track sag, well, this was track flab!

So I pulled out four links, down to 72. Still a bit looser than I'd like, but pulling out two more would make things way too taut. I think I might try pulling out one, going with an odd number, and hiding it in the drive wheel.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, October 9, 2011 1:43 AM

Well crud. Even though I've been assembling these friuls, part of me was thinking they were just like the KV tracks where each one can fit with each one. Nope. No choice but to go even. 70 links is WAY too taut (even suspended, the upper run floats up by the fenders). 72 still a bit too slack...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:36 AM

Maybe move the front idler forward a bit (if possible, not sure if you left it positionable?) to tighten things just a skosh?

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:04 PM

Up to you if you want to chance this.  There are pretty soft so if you were to gently tug on a few at a time they would stretch a tiny bit each and 70 end being just right.

Marc  

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, October 9, 2011 10:39 PM

Bill - I've already got the front idler extended forward a bit (had to lock it down after that since it was just super slippy). If I could move it BACK now, 70 would be great...Time to revisit that join maybe.

Marc - great idea bout stretching the tracks a bit. I'm going to try it and if they break I'm blaming you Wink

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, October 10, 2011 2:28 AM

70 links...

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, October 10, 2011 9:46 AM

I didn't know that the Idlers on the dragon kit were adjustable? Hopefully you left the drive wheels unglued so you can remove the track. Rest of the tracks are probably going on the T34 as spares or in the spares box right Doogs?

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Lundergaard on Monday, October 10, 2011 9:53 AM

Doogs did you stretch the Friuls????  If so... you are far braver man than me.  Looks good.

Andy

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, October 10, 2011 10:17 AM

The idlers are "kind of" adjustable. In that...they stick into a hole, and the idler mount (for the actual wheel) sits at the perimeter of the circle and can be rotated. Problem is...the idler mount/hull connection is very loose and I can't imagine it withstanding the weight of friuls very well at all.

And yes...I did stretch the friuls a bit. Just went down the length and pulled gently. Nothing to it. And I have something like 20 links left over, so if I damaged one, no worries!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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