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Wierd Question
Posted by mastercarp on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:08 PM
I got back into modeling about a year and a half ago. Since then I've done a few models, including two ships. However, I really want to start doing Armor. I currently have three kits waiting to be built. Unfortunately, I haven't paid that much attention to "finish". I paint the models but never really worry about seam lines, injection marks, etc. What I would like is a tank that has known fit problems that are relatively easy to fix, and is also relatively inexpensive. Something to hone my skills before ruining a more expensive model (particularly Tamiya's T-55A). Would prefer if it had a camo pattern as well.

So my question is: Does any one know of such a kit?

Thanks,
Chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:12 PM
What scale are you interested in, 1/72 would probably be your best bet for... uh... problems.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:16 PM
Tamiya's old panther (1/35) had some problems mostly in lack of detail and mold lines. There are some fit problems too, but with some work it could make a good model or a testing ground.

I just finished Tamiya's T-55A and Wow!! [wow] that doesnt need much clean up at all
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:18 PM
Well master I dont know about any armor models with bad fits,, all the ones that I have done have been fairly good fitting. How ever I did have to use filling putty with my 251 ausf D Halftrack,, that haowever may have been more me than the model. Now back to the original question. I do however know that the Revell Monogran 1/48th Scale Spitfire was a poorly fitting model that I had to do quite a bit of filling to get it to fit and even after it still didn't look right. Its not armor but if your looking for a model to help you get better at filling and fitting then this should be the model you could use. Also it is only about 12 bucks at Walmart or KMart.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:19 PM
I'd stick with one of the older Tamiya offerings.

Even something like the KV series or the T34's could keep you busy filling in those nasty little motorization holes.

That way, If you didn't like your results at least it's on the bottom.

But I would second the Tamiya Panther A. Cost less than $20 and definitely needs help with the barrel and the motorization holes.
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Posted by erush on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:28 PM
If you really want to learn how to fill seems and blemishes, buy any old aircraft kit (i could be shot for this here). But they all have seams on the fusalge (two halves), wing roots, wings, sometime the horizontle stab's too. Anyway, if you can do a clean job on an a/c model you can do anything! Most armor really isn't that bad for seams, except the barrels. If yo ucan do a barrel and keep it looking round you're there too!

Eric
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, February 2, 2004 10:20 PM
If you are looking for a simple and inexpensive tank kit with some problems I could recommend Tamiya T-3485 Tamiya or M-42 Walker Bulldog. Or if you really up to the challenge, try one of those Trumpeteer 1/35 Tank kits.

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Monday, February 2, 2004 11:03 PM
What's wrong with the Bulldog? I was thinking of picking one up?
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 6:17 AM
tamiyas M41 is perfect for some additional detailing
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 9:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by warmonger1

tamiyas M41 is perfect for some additional detailing


That it is!
No fit problems, though.
It's a sweet little kit, just waiting for a little encouragement to become a masterpiece!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 9:25 AM
From what I understand about all that is involved with the new T-55 is tossing a bottle of glue in the box, shutting the lid shakin it up and out pops a tank...

Dragons Night Fighting Panther G has some peculiar areas on it.. Particularly the engine deck and the hull sponson bottoms that require some filling. The kit is going for around 15 bucks right now... Also you can have a go of the indi links.... This is a good practice kit I think... But then I am partial to the Panther....

Oh one more thing... It ain't a weird question you asked.. Its pretty smart actually... Good thinking... !!
Same thing goes with painting... Most of us probably have some paint dummys laying around that we practice on. I prefer the old Tamiya King Tiger for that purpose.... Anything thats cheap and big...
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Posted by r13b20 on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 2:36 PM
Academy's M1A1. Although it may be too modern for your taste. The turret goes together a little funky. But not too bad. Or the old tamiya m8 I did. That needed some heat to get the forward hull together.
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Posted by Spamicus on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 5:18 PM
If you can get a hold of Lindburgh's T55 it can give you some real challenges and make you appreciate that Tamiya offering ever so much more. The Lindburgh kit is pretty cheap, but you may have to Ebay or garage sale to find it.

Steve

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Posted by mastercarp on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 6:25 PM
Thanks all, this is very helpful.

I have read other posts about how well Tamiya's T-55 goes together and wanted to avoid something that goes together that easily (for now anyway). Now all I need to do is finish that ship I'm working on and turn to the darkside :)

Chris
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Posted by Spamicus on Wednesday, February 4, 2004 8:42 PM
Blush [:I]Just noticed I misspelled Lindberg in my previous response. Sorry. I must have had one of those.....moments.Blush [:I]

Steve

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Posted by r13b20 on Thursday, February 5, 2004 7:31 PM
welcome to the "senior moment" group spamicus! I'll be your host for the rest of your life! Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 9:33 PM
I am surprised that my suggested manufacturer has not been mentioned yet… Personally I think just about any Italeri kit would fit the bill for you. I would say that Italeri kits are a bit fidgety and they are notorious for mould lines. As far as filling goes, well every kit could be improved with a little putty. Italeri kits are usually pretty cheap and they build into some great models with a little time and patients.

hope this helpsBig Smile [:D]
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