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  • From: savannah ga.
how many of you use future on your amor
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:40 PM
just wondering how many of you use future on your amor models? i did my first one 2night and turned out preety good so far. looks like a long drying period tho we have rain the next couple of days.Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:47 PM
Yup ... I've used it to make the decals stick down a little better. Works great !!!

One thing I was going to try this time was adding a little Tamiya Flat to Future to make a dullcote. Been told it works pretty good.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:54 PM
I'm ashamed, I haven't as of yet.

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 Eric 

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Posted by kaleu on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:55 PM
I haven't used Future. I use glosscote and then use dullcote to seal the paint and decals. I have bought Future with the intention of trying it on a kit, but it usually ends up on the business end of a mop and then on the floor. Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:41 AM
I use it for decals. I'm also planning on trying it out as a dull coat mix on the project I have going. And of coarse the wife steals it for the floors.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 3:06 AM
I always use it to prepare the model for a wadh and decals application adn sealing...
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 3:42 AM
I've never used Future. And probably never will, now that I've discovered dry transfer markings! No need for a gloss surface for decal adhesion.

Also, I prefer doing washes on a matte surface, not glossy.

Still, I do want to try it and see what all the fuss is about. Even if I don't use it to prepare for waterslide decals, there are still other uses for it, like making aircraft canopies ultra-clear.
Don't think I'll ever use it for armor, though!
~Brian
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Posted by wildwilliam on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 6:08 AM
i used it on my Panther w/ some Tamiya Falt Base to get a satin finish for
my filtering steps.
i was very pleased w/ the results.

you do have to give it 24 hours or more to dry.

J-Hulk,
don't the matte surfaces really 'grab' the wash?
(so it ends up pretty even across the surface)
or is that the desired effect?
the Panther will be my first completed armor kit,
so i am still not up to speed on the techniques.
w/ the planes you really want it mostly in the corners and panel lines.

ed.
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  • From: USA, GA
Posted by erush on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 7:14 AM
I used it on my Marder before putting on my decals (I used dry transfers on it too)and doing the washes and weathering. It worked great. I also used it with the Tamiya flat base for my dull coat. 30% base and 70% Future made a very flat finish that looked great and went on great too. And it doesn't knock you out from laquer fumes either. Give it a try.

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Posted by Keyworth on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 7:54 AM
That sounds like a decent option, Eric. I'll have to try it. I've used plain Future and followed with Dullcote with good results.
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 8:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wildwilliam
J-Hulk,
don't the matte surfaces really 'grab' the wash?
(so it ends up pretty even across the surface)
or is that the desired effect?
the Panther will be my first completed armor kit,
so i am still not up to speed on the techniques.
w/ the planes you really want it mostly in the corners and panel lines.
ed.


Yup, a matte finish "grabs" the wash, but for me, that's precisely the desired effect. I like the textures and "outdoor filthy" look it creates. Of course, it also fills the corners and recessed lines, too. I manipulate the wash as I apply it to avoid getting too much crud stuck out in the open, though. I can get a good rain-streaked look with this technique, too. Many birds killed with one stone!

Also, I always apply the model's base colors much lighter than what I want the final look to be, because I know the washes and filters will darken the whole thing up substantially.

I suppose I shouldn't say I'll never use future on armor...I oughta give it a try at least once!
~Brian
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Posted by okieboy on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 9:14 AM
Interesting technique J-Hulk! Sounded wacky at first, but it made sense the more you described it. I'll have to try it. As to the original issue, I used Future on my big Tiger I and it worked great, plus other benefits: No fumes, cost effective when compared to buying gloss coat and most importantly it will not reflect UV light like some coats do (Testors).

Okieboy
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 9:39 AM
Heard a lot about it but can't get it here. If this is a gloss varnish, I can't imagine using it on armour would look very good, even if you just apply it in under the decals area. At the moment I tend to use matt varnish.
My technique with washes is like J-Hulks. I find it works good for me, then I apply the varnish,and finally, of course, the pastels.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:37 PM
never used it. mainly because it's not available here.
i just use *gunze sangyo mr. mark softer on decals
then spray *gunze sangyo flat clear to seal it.

*this post is a paid advertisement of Gunze Sangyo. LOL

i also use the gunze's weathering pre-mixed paints. 6 paints in a box consisting
of mud, rust, rough sand, soot, oil and rough gray.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:47 PM
Have a look here that was "futured" before decal application and washing, then received Dullcote before drybrushing then "futured" again to finish it...
Ciao
Fabio
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 1:15 PM
QUOTE: Yup ... I've used it to make the decals stick down a little better. Works great !!!


I have yet to try using Future. Do you just use a bit on the brush Robert, where the decals will go?

I normally use Rust-Oleum Gloss before the oil wash and apply the decals before Dull coating it. Then I use a different color for the wash after the dull. Sort of the best of both worlds.

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  • From: Central Wisconsin
Posted by Spamicus on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 5:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kaleu

I haven't used Future. I use glosscote and then use dullcote to seal the paint and decals. I have bought Future with the intention of trying it on a kit, but it usually ends up on the business end of a mop and then on the floor. Big Smile [:D]


DittoBig Smile [:D]

Steve

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 6:19 PM
ive used it, but personally i prefer dry-transfers. you dont have to deal with the dullcoat and all. Cool [8D]
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Posted by Kumy on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 6:25 PM
I really like Future. Makes a great surface to decal over. And I like to use it for a cover coat just before weathering. Its very easy to work with.
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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 7:17 PM
I use Future on all my Armor, both as a glosscoat for better decal adhesion, and the dullcoat to seal in my weathering/detailing. I mix Tamiya Flatbase into my Future in a 60-40 or 70-30 mix and shoot it through the airbrush at 28 PSI. I've never had a problem and have shot over 100 Armored vehicles with it. Smile [:)]Some older models I built before I got an airbrush I've pulled down and resealed peeling decals with future. Then I proceeded to weather them and seal them in 'Flat Future', making them look so much better than before.

I highly recommend the procedure. The next time you take a tour of my 'Factory', take note of the finished models: They are done with Future flattened by Tamiya Flatbase. Wink [;)]Cool [8D]
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 9:12 PM
Have never tried it. Although without the gloss on the surface prior to weathering, the basecoat really absorbs most of the wash which is not desired by many. But for me (like J-hulk) I like the effect it creates (sort of a random pattern of dirtmarks and smudges) except of course the problem on the decals. Well, as for me, I have been trying to hand paint most of the tank markings, lately.

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