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16"/50 cal M1919 scale model
Posted by nineclef on Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:28 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16%22/50_caliber_M1919_gun

I'd like to find a model of this gun.  I'm pretty open to the scale, but 1:35 would be preferred.  Does anyone know where I can get a kit for this gun?

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Posted by T26E4 on Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:01 PM

Doesn't exist.  Sorry. Especially in 1/35.

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Posted by SANDMAN0198 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:00 PM

THERE IS A COMPANY IN GERMANY I DO NOT QUITE REMEMBER THE WHOLE NAME BUT ENDED ON AIRMODELBAU THEY SPECIALIZE IN ARTILLERY PIECES I GOT THE M198 HOWITZER IN 1/35 BEFORE TRUMPETEER CAME OUT WITH THE PLASTIC ONE IT MAY BE KIND OF EXPENSIVE GOOD LUCK..

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:28 PM

Thanks for the info, but could you use regular sentence case and some punctuation in your post?.  All caps is seen as yelling on internet forums and makes it harder to read, as does the lack of punctuation.

The German company you are talking about is AirModel.  I don't think they make any huge Coast Artillery pieces though. 

The closest you will find in 1/35 is the 28 cm (about 11 inches) German Leopold Railguns from Trumpeter and Dragon.  They also make smaller versions in 1/72.  Lastly, there is the huge 800mm (about 31 inches) Dora German Railgun in 1/35 from Soar Art.

The closest US piece you will find is the old Renwal, and recently re-issued by Monogram, 240mm Atomic Annie Cannon. 

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:24 PM

Those large caliber shore guns would be a great subject for a 1/35th scale model .

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Posted by T26E4 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:38 PM

^ In theory --- but unless you've got a multi millionaire bankrolling your model company (think Peter Jackson and Wingnut Winds), what you are proposing is economically impossible. You're asking for some company to commit business suicide.

Yes we have the Leopold 28cm and Karl Morsers.  You even have the Soar Art Dora. But all German and I doubt, any of them money makers.

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Posted by SANDMAN0198 on Monday, May 21, 2012 12:52 PM

Is this an order?... I retired 4 years ago after 24 years in military service.  I did not know I was back in school.  this is a website page used as a tool for sharing information, discuss subjects and help fellow modelers.  this is the kind of stuff that makes people avoid forum places like this one.  When I replied to this post no one had given it a thought or any good input with the excemption of another participant that stated that the item was not available anywhere.  my posting was just a suggestion.  I do not go around checking on gramma or punctuation of others, I got better things to do; like building models and trying to help people that request it.  Sorry if you got your feelings hurt or thought I was yelling.  If you really read the post it has no indication what so ever of any malicious intent.  Only provides information.  Hope you got enough punctuation and grammar in this posting.   And for your information yelling is done in capital letters and red text.  if you dont like someone's posting style ignore it and "drive on"

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, May 21, 2012 1:12 PM

Stand down and relax, Marine.  It's not an order, just some friendly advice to make it easier to read your posts.  Like I said, you provided good info and it did lead to others providing more info.  So all is well.  And yes, your last post is much easier to read.

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Posted by bultenibo on Monday, May 21, 2012 4:48 PM

Nineclef: Interesting subject - US costal guns in the interwar period! Unfortunately I think the subject is too narrow for the market.

I found this thread though on another forum posted by a guy that is scratchbuilding the M1919' gun in 1/72 scale. Quite impressive.

http://modelerssocialclub.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gallery&action=display&thread=930

 

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, May 21, 2012 6:32 PM

 

Hey guys :  )

These 'big guns' interest me also. Anything that can lob a shell weighing over 2200 lbs. more than 25 miles is pretty impressive ( that's a 'hang time' of over a minute and a half).                                                                                        I used to go camping on Peaks Island off Portland Maine. This particular island was home for coastal defense weapons and Naval observators.  From the lookout points (which are still inplace ) you can actually see the curve of the horizon, and it was protected with twin 16 inch 50 cal guns.

All that is left is the concrete casement, tunnels with small tracks for moving shells and loads and the huge rooms for storage, but, it is quite impressive and I always wondered how it must have looked back in the war years. It is said that when the guns were test fired, the windows on the other side of the island shattered !  I have an album of pictures from there, but it is in storage. these are just pictures I yanked off the 'net

thanks,

tread

P.S. This is  ' Battery Steele ' on Peaks Island in case you want to read more about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, May 21, 2012 6:37 PM

Tread , nice info Yes. Who built the model ?

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, May 21, 2012 6:58 PM

Hi Shell : )

The model is uncredited, but it is at a coastal defense museum in Va.     ..... here is the link,buddy ....      http://andy_bennett.home.mindspring.com/16-inchbarbette.html 

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, May 21, 2012 7:19 PM

Tread thanks , interesting .Yes

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Posted by MountnRide on Monday, May 21, 2012 7:52 PM

And for your information yelling is done in capital letters and red text. if you dont like someone's posting style ignore it and "drive on"

R u post 2 start a centance wit AND ?  2 cents

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Posted by falschimjager on Monday, May 21, 2012 9:19 PM

I'm guessing you're best (and probably only) bet is scratchbuilding, to be honest it doesn't look that bad to do, just a fairly simple gun and a fairly regularly shaped mounting, should be fairly straightforward, if not I doubt there's one for sale.

 

Also I should say this is not the 1919 or the 50 caliber I was expecting...

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, May 21, 2012 9:53 PM

With navy type guns and guns aboard a warship, "caliber" is used to describe the barrel length (from breech face to muzzle) as multiples of the bore diameter. In this case the bore is 16 inches multiplied by 50 which equals the barrel length of this guns , or roughly 67 ft .Yes

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Posted by falschimjager on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:41 AM

I know, I was just stating that I expected a bit more M2.

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Posted by treadwell on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:55 PM

 

O.K.   .... just these last 2 pics of  a 16 inch gun from the USS Missouri going to a museum...but still they are so cool... really gives a comparison on how huge they are.

thanks,

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:52 PM

Tread , thats cool Cool..................Yes

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