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Kit Acquisition--Informal Poll Round 2

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Kit Acquisition--Informal Poll Round 2
Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, March 31, 2012 1:42 PM

Satch's "I'm a modelholic" post and the first informal poll conducted here /forums/t/146059.aspx got me to thinking about another question that I'm sure the intrepid bunch of styrene addicts here can help answer.

I've heard scale model building compared as "inexpensive" relative to other hobbies like radio control, golf, beer drinking, etc. in terms of dollars per hour of enjoyment or similar. Consider for example that if you pay $40 for a kit and it takes you 40-50 hours to build, paint, weather, etc., that's pretty cheap entertainment depending on your needs/wants when you think about (assuming you do this for fun/entertainment and not some other masochistic motivation! Wink ). 

This poll is simple...and the answers may actually help you defend this to your significant other, CFO, bank, credit card issure, etc. where appropriate.

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.  

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)  

3) If you died today, who would get your stash? Big Smile

 

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, March 31, 2012 2:05 PM

wbill76

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.  

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)  

3) If you died today, who would get your stash? Big Smile

 

1. Probably only about $200-250 per year, but that includes magazines and books. I don't buy many kits, so paint, glue, sand paper and the such is a big portion. KIts probably being the least of it anymore.

2. Oyyyyy, this is tough one. I go in spurts. Since I was laid off, I've gotten much more time in. On average I'll say maybe 5 hours a week? Doesn't seem like much, but I might work 3 hours one day and skip 4 days. Really hard to tell, but since I'm completing maybe 3-4 kits a year, that's a ballpark. I'm slow and get easily unmotivated.

3. Ah, who would get my modest stash? I told the old lady to sell it on ebay, but I know her, she's too lazy. Perhaps I could make a "suggested" list of members to donate them to. So be nice. Big SmileWink

I like your Manny-like deep questions Bill. Keep them coming.

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Posted by Stage_Left on Saturday, March 31, 2012 2:37 PM

1) I'd say an average of $225 (no, not because it's close to $229).

2) Oddly, I think an average of 260 hours/year based on a current average of 5 hours/week.

3) I would let my brother pick over what he wanted and have the rest of the stash, references, and other useable items donated to my club to dispose of as they saw fit.

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Posted by RedCorvette on Saturday, March 31, 2012 4:01 PM

wbill76

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.

Probably around $2,000 per year.  

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)  

Hard to estimate, but maybe around 200 hours.

3) If you died today, who would get your stash? Big Smile

Probably my youngest brother, but don't tell him that... Wink 

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Posted by padakr on Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:16 PM

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.  

Probably around $500 a year.  It's creeping up.

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)  

I think I average about 5 hours a week, so about 260 hours per year.

3) If you died today, who would get your stash? 

My wife would probably offer it all to my modelling buddies.  Nobody else in the family is interested in modelling.

Paul

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:40 PM

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.

I came back to this hobby in last December. So far, $1,200 on kits, $300 on books, and $1,000 on equipment (paints included). I thought this hobby would be cheap!

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)

Actually building & painting time per week is probably 2 hours.  Reading relevant books and doing research takes up more time and is as much fun.  I'm reading "Winter War" and this book is an amazing piece of work.  

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:51 PM

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.  

$10k

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)  

800-1,000

3) If you died today, who would get your stash?

Sassy

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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:52 PM

OK Bill...I will bite

1 - In total somewhere around $500 to $3000. This includes traveling to shows, some overnight stays plus all model supplies, tools, items for the studio.....everything related to styrene. (for all you guys who go to shows, and do other hobby related items...you need to consider the total cost)

Overall a small portion is on kits compared to everything else!!

2 - Generally 8 to 16 hours a week...depending! In general I would say with shows and other hobby work, around 750 hours/year. (same with the hours!!)

Thus a dirt cheap average entertainment value of ~ $1.50 - 2.25/hour

3 - My hobby is accounted for in my will. The built models and a small allowance for display is left to the local American Legion post. The contents of my studio and my stash is left to a fellow modeler.

The wife gets everything else!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2012 4:55 AM

1)I have a budget of £100 a month, but i usually excepe that by a few pounds. So i would estimate about £1,500 a year.

2) for me it varies. Currently i only build when i am in barracks, i don't do anything at home. Which means i don't buld when i am off work. So on a week when i am in camp, providing i am in the right frame of mind, i can be modelling for upto 5 or 6 hours a night, 4 nights a week.

3) E-bay probably.

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, April 1, 2012 8:32 AM
  1. I say $200, much less than I used to spend.
  2. Less than 10 hours a week. World of Warcraft has cut into my modeling time.
  3. My wife, then ultimately eBay, although she too is unmotivated to sell the stuff. My wife's motto is "I can't/don't know how" as in "I can't take photos, I don't know how to upload them, I can't list them". She has a ton of stuff she wants to sell on eBay but wants my help (i.e. do it for her).
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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, April 1, 2012 10:48 AM

I am still waiting for my prize.  Am afraid Manny stole it once again...

1. First two years returning to hobby after 25 years break... I had to get everything!!!  Airbrush set, compressor, workbench, airbrush booth and lots of tools along with kits I would say $4000.  From now on $500-$1000 as long as I keep my stash under control. 

There are always aftermarkets for my current stash... aluminum barrels, tracks and upgrade sets. Wink  For example, I shopped at a great model shop here in New Orleans yesterday while I am on vacation... I didn't buy a kit but spent $70 on upgrade and zimm sets.  Well, my wife was with me... Whistling

2. About ten hours a week if I am lucky!

3. Well, if I die because I accidentally cut the artery with my modeling knife, Manny can have them if he promises to look after my wife. Probably my boys if they are ever interested.  If not, I told my wife to contact somebody at the veteran hospitals. 

Andy

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Posted by caSSius on Sunday, April 1, 2012 11:49 AM

Interesting questions Bill. It has been only recently that I attempted to quantify the value of my obsession hobby...it was enlightening to see how low the $/hr ratio was, and completely removed all guilty feelings about indulging myself in it.

  1. Including books, tools and accessories I'd guestimate about $600-$1000...I only purchase 3-5 kits per year, but I go nuts researching things and adding-to or upgrading the work bench.
  2. Actual build hours would average about 5 hrs/week. If I include research reading and time on model websites that at least doubles.
  3. My youngest son, who has followed me into the hobby...and in many ways is surpassing me already.

Cheers,

Brad

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Posted by JohanT on Sunday, April 1, 2012 12:44 PM

Hi Bill,
I guess that building up the tools box is to be seen as an investment.

1.) Non consumables is probably up to $ 1000 in cost, maybe worth 30% of that if resold.
The yearly average is easy, I have all the cost on one credit card, spend is fairly steady around $1000/ year.
That is including 2 subscriptions, books, kits and consumables but excluding tools. 

2.) 800 hours

3.) I have a deal with my LHS and my wife, he resells all of it and the money goes to the homeless.

Very Best Regards
Johan 

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Posted by panzerpilot on Sunday, April 1, 2012 1:05 PM

1) Around $2000/yr. Usually, when I buy a kit, I will also buy 'some' AM along with it. For example, Eduard masks and sometimes 'zoom'. True details tires. Some resin AM. I can easily rack up over a $100 per kit, since I have been focusing on 1/32 in recent times.. Then there's the paint, supplies, etc. I'm pretty removed from the bar scene, etc. these days. So yeah I do save a lot of money with this hobby. I also do other hobbies, such as leatherwork (which sometimes use the very same tools and paints, AB and booth, etc.)

2) 400 hours and increasing.

3) I have no friends, kids, or relatives that appreciate modelling. I'd most likely donate my stash to FSM folks, and/or prefereably someone centered towards teaching their kids, or kids in general, the intrigue of this.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:42 PM

It's interesting to see the variations, keep the answers coming guys! I suppose I should answer my own questions as well for the purposes of consistency. Wink

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.

My spending in the early years easily topped $1500 a year as I built up a reference library and the kit and AM stash. Now that the stash is "established" and my pace of building has slowed down, I've found that I'm still spending annually on the hobby but a diminshed rate. I would estimate that I now spend somewhere in the neighborhood of $300-$500 per year tops.

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)

I used to spend a good 15 hours per week building and another 10-15 on forums and such but now I would say I spend probably 3-5 hours a week on building and probably another 5 hours a week on forums.   

3) If you died today, who would get your stash?

I will admit to have never given this much thought. Seeing some of the answers that others have posted have given me some ideas though. At the moment it's covered under the default statement in my will that says "everything goes to the wife". Wink

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:57 PM

My two million cents:

1)  I'm holding at around $1,500/yr. I do try and combine hobby travel with vacations (AMPS show in KC and family vacation as an example) but most of the money goes to AM and references. I tend to buy older, less expensive kits, and so far haven't done any hobby-only trips.

2)  If I'm lucky, I average around 6 hours per week, so say 300 in a good year.

3)  I don't really have any "in-person" modeling friends, and a rather small stash, but if I check out today, my wife will be on this forum looking for suggestions......so ya'll be nice.

Wink

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Posted by Medicman71 on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:25 PM

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.

I'd say around $1000-$1500

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)

Just a guess but i'd say 800

3) If you died today, who would get your stash?

I'd have my wife send my stuff to the Wounded Warrior Program or send them to the troops that are deployed.

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Posted by bufflehead on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:58 PM

Sorry Bill, I missed your first round so I'll help out here:

1) How much $ total (ballpark estimate) do you spend on the hobby in a given year? This would potentially encompass not just kits but related supplies, references/books, etc.

Currently I'd say approx. $1000 (50% on AM goodies, 25% on kits, 25% on reading materal)

2) How much in "time" do you devote to the hobby in that same period? (Think about it in terms of hours per week X 52 weeks in a year...or whatever math is easiest!)

Like most my bench time fluctuates, but I'm also going to count reading time since I consider that to be an essential part of the modeling process.  Approx. 1000 hrs

3) If you died today, who would get your stash?

Well, I have no wife, no kids, and friends and relatives have no interest in this hobby.  I would not want my beloved stash to be sold on Ebay or in a garage sale and have the $$ go to someone who doesn't value this hobby.   Wow!  Never thought of this before, but I guess I'd either donate it to a local hobby store with the intention of donating to some worthy cause or donate it to my fellow FSM members. 

Honestly, I truly believe that if the kits from my stash were to be posthumously donated to my fellow forum members those kits would be built with more care and thought and feeling than anyone else who might get them. 

On a side note:  As for my completed models, if none of my family or friends values them as a momento for themselves, then I'd like them to be donated to an LHS for display.  Except the sucky ones...those should be put in a pile, doused with Testors enamel thinner and set on fire!

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:38 AM

bufflehead

Honestly, I truly believe that if the kits from my stash were to be posthumously donated to my fellow forum members those kits would be built with more care and thought and feeling than anyone else who might get them. 

On a side note:  As for my completed models, if none of my family or friends values them as a momento for themselves, then I'd like them to be donated to an LHS for display.  Except the sucky ones...those should be put in a pile, doused with Testors enamel thinner and set on fire!

My thoughts exactly. My wife is too lazy to sell them on ebay. I suppose she could put an ad on Craigslist and see where that goes, but I would probably prefer them to go to my modeling brothers in the forum.

I like the idea of torching finished builds to relive our days of youth.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, April 6, 2012 12:43 PM

1. Aprox. $800.00/yr. Yet, my cost is dwindling as I have nearly every kit I want or can build complete with AM. All the tools I need and a healthy supply of paint, thinner, glue, putty etc... Thus, the lion's share of my expenditures goes to reference books and material.

2. Approx. 500 hrs/yr. Bottom line, nowhere near enough.

3. Upon passing my kits and associated supplies are to be donated through IPMS' Support Your Troops program so that they may find their way into the hands of brave men and women serving in combat zones.

                        Regards, Joe

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