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  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Exhaust pipes and jack blocks
Posted by satch_ip on Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:53 PM

I'm building a Panther and have a question.  My photo references, mostly Culver and Feist, show that the exhaust pipes and the jack were painted Dunklegelb along with the rest of the tank.  I know it's hard to tell in a B&W photo but there is almost no contrast in the pictures.  Most instructions and other modelers rust out the pipes and paint the jack some sort of dark metal color. 

Any opinions?

Satch

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:05 PM

I am not an expert,but somebody pointed out to me that on some Panthers,that they are not all exhaust pipes,two are intakes and that they are more likely to retain their paint while the exhausts because of moisture would rust out.

Also in Mig Jimenez's first FAQ,he depicts jacks. Painted yellow,so I guess it's just preference 

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:24 PM

Yes, I too heard that one or two of the pipes shouldn't rust out. I think the two left ones. I also paint the jack a wood color for some contrast.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Friday, May 25, 2012 11:01 AM

The jack would've been treated like any other piece of gear supplied to the military and painted hull color since it was stored externally as a matter of course just like fire extinguishers, tool boxes, or any other external fitting. That's the historical perspective and photos of brand new vehicles sitting outside depots show the jack matching the hull color on a consistent basis.

The modeler perspective however is rooted in "go with what you know" and so jacks, because the ones we usually see in car trunks are this way, developed a tradition of black or metallic paint on models as a result. Many stay with that convention for visual interest but there's no reason for it to be that way from an accuracy standpoint. Consider it an artistic license approach. Personally I usually paint my jacks to match the hull as a rule.

Panther exhausts that have the "three" pipe arrangement on the left hand side consisted of one central exhaust and two cooling pipes for airflow only, not exhaust gases from the engine, so those two smaller pipes shouldn't be rusted out as a matter of course. HTH!

 

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Friday, May 25, 2012 12:30 PM

Thanks for that clarification. I agree I've muffed up on the jacks. I do believe you're right about "visual interest". I do like a little contrast. Sometimes the directions aren't any help either.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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