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Gunze/Early Dragon origin of some Cyber Hobby kits?

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  • Member since
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  • From: Berkeley CA/St. Paul MN
Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:17 AM

Thanks much. Bought a Stug III E to try them out. They've also got a PzIII E/F. There's also a recent DML Smart Kit for that one. I read a part count for the new one at 600 + Magic Tracks: that's a lot for a small buggy. Course with DML you never really know how many parts are needed. We'll see how the Stug works out - I need a couple more early war AFVs.

 

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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:59 AM

Generally speaking, if the kit is a German subject and was issued by Dragon in the old "Imperial Series" (numbered in the 9000's), then it's very likely to be based on a Gunze original tooling.

These kits include:

PzIII family (including Stug.III's)

PzIV family (inc Stug.IV's)

Panther family (Inc Jadgpanther)

The Gunze kits were little gems in their time, coming with styrene, PE and cast metal parts, and often MK tracks. When Dragon bought the moulds, the cast metal and PE was replaced with styrene parts and the MK tracks replaced with (then) newly tooled styrene indies.

Dragon also did a similar thing with their 1/48 aircraft range, the FW-190 family, Me-262 and He-162 kits and others which escape me, coming from TriMaster moulds.

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:00 AM

Not sure i understand your question. Yes there are many Orange-box budget deals. I have the siG-33 that comes with magic tracks and some troops.

The Night-Fighting Panther G Late was an ex-Gunze mold, that was simplified with styrene parts in place of the white metal and other misc parts. I think the Early jagdpanther was also, as perhaps some of the Imperial line, but am unsure of that.

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 Eric 

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Gunze/Early Dragon origin of some Cyber Hobby kits?
Posted by EBergerud on Monday, September 24, 2012 10:38 PM

Dragon USA had a Cyber-Hobby StugIII F as it's sale of the day item: $14. Thought I'd check for any reviews and stumbled on something interesting, although I'm not sure where. One of the reviewers said the kit in question was originally designed by Gunze which built models in Japan in the 90's but was bought out by Dragon. Several of DML's early kits were from this series and some are now in Cyber Hobby. Here's the deal: the reviewer said the kits weren't up to contemporary detail (although they now have magic tracks) but were very nice kits: much better than the old Tamiyas and having a part count south of 400 which is half what a modern DML can have. If the account is accurate it would explain why some Cyber Hobby kits are extremely economical - not much more than the reissues of the Tamiya models from the early 70s. Money isn't a huge issue with me, but the idea of a decent kit manageable in less than a month is. Does anyone know if any other Cyber-Hobby "value" items might have made the same journey from Japan. (Wouldn't be the first time: there was a thread on FineScale listing old Hasegawa kits farmed out to Revell Germany that are clean builds and very reasonably priced. Gents must have identified 25 such kits: I've got a Spit IX that's a Revellagawa and it looks very nice.) Any tips?

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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