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mgh
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  • From: Utah County, Utah
a good old fashioned butt-kickin'
Posted by mgh on Monday, October 22, 2012 5:20 PM

I am building the Cyber-Hobby Flammpanzer III, and it has gone together pretty well, and I am happy with the results.  Not even close to show quality, but I had fun and it turned out better than most.  Then came the tracks.
I thought I had a plan, using some tricks others had given me, I had them shaped around the wheels, pulled them off and carefully separated the left side from the right side to airbrush them.  But by the time I was done with the airbrushing I had a pile of pieces that I didn’t know what went where anymore.  How difficult can it be?  Just put the puzzle back together and glue it on.  Suffice to say I came close to throwing the kit against the wall.
Some lessons learned; figure out before you glue the fenders on if they are going to conflict with track assembly; if painting sections off the kit, do one side at a time.
Now I need to decide if this kit will look better with no tracks, or with absolutely horrendous-looking tracks installed.
Maybe next kit I will wait until everything else is painted, and then brush paint the tracks after gluing them on the kit.
I am really appreciating the last Tamiya kit I built, the Renault UE.  It had formed long pieces of track, with separate links only around the main drive wheels.
Ah well, I can tell myself lessons learned the hard way stick with me longer, and this was a fun kit (though it will end up in the pile under the table).

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  • From: Cat Central, NC
Posted by Bronto on Monday, October 22, 2012 5:23 PM

Did you glue them together?  the DML tracks will not stay if you do not glue them.  They are not designed to be "workable".

mgh
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Posted by mgh on Monday, October 22, 2012 6:05 PM

Yup.  I assembled them on a piece of tape, then when they began to set I pulled them off the tape and shaped them around the wheels.  When they were set firmly I pulled the sections off (that technique was recommended to me in another post).

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, October 22, 2012 6:27 PM

That is one reason I have become a fan of the  assemble and attach tracks first, paint in place second method. Before that I dreaded doing link and length or indy tracks with partial assembly and painting followed by more assembly and painting...

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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  • From: Cat Central, NC
Posted by Bronto on Monday, October 22, 2012 6:52 PM

mgh

Yup.  I assembled them on a piece of tape, then when they began to set I pulled them off the tape and shaped them around the wheels.  When they were set firmly I pulled the sections off (that technique was recommended to me in another post).

That is basically the method I use, except I leave the tape on once around the wheels until they are fully dry.  Maybe you didn't use enough glue to make strong enough bonds between the links?

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Posted by waynec on Monday, October 22, 2012 9:00 PM

and this is why i do warwheels.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

mgh
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  • From: Utah County, Utah
Posted by mgh on Monday, October 22, 2012 9:50 PM

waynec

and this is why i do warwheels.

I'm with you there!  Have an Opel Blitz and a Command car to build.  Have a Trumpeter M1A1, but I think it has a choice of vinyl tracksYes

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:53 AM

I just make one long run and use the Testors pink bottle with the little brush and liberally brush them. After an hour they are setting pretty well and I take the run and shape them around the idler, sprocket and wheels. I leave one connection unglued so it will be easy to remove later. I then let them set for about 24 hours. I would recommend an extra link, because the tracks tend to tighten up a little.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

mgh
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  • From: Utah County, Utah
Posted by mgh on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:37 AM

tigerman

I just make one long run and use the Testors pink bottle with the little brush and liberally brush them. After an hour they are setting pretty well and I take the run and shape them around the idler, sprocket and wheels. I leave one connection unglued so it will be easy to remove later. I then let them set for about 24 hours. I would recommend an extra link, because the tracks tend to tighten up a little.

That's interesting.  Is the pink bottle stuff slow to set?  I didn't think I could let the tracks set that long before they were set hard, but I am using lacquer thinner for glue, and it is pretty hot stuff.

So after they have set the 24 hours, there is enough flexibility in the plastic that you can pull them off around the sprockets and road wheels?

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:06 PM

I think this is just a rant and no answer was being saught .........sawt ........saut ....sott .........Hmm............?

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:16 PM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GiacosMGKJo/S6cro9EexYI/AAAAAAAABs0/5AHdxSD3dYM/s200/kick.jpg

No sawt, saut or sott needed.......  

          just use mud.


 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by DUSTER on Friday, October 26, 2012 1:13 PM

mgh:  I would be leery of the holding power of Lacquer thinner (as seems to be born out by your situation) while the theory of using lacquer thinner is sound, for small parts that are set in place and left alone afterwords. I think that a plastic cement would be better able to achieve your goal of a more permanent and lasting joint for larger and more complex joints; as well as less reaction to any paints formula. 

tigerman: Testors PINK?? not familiar with this one, any more info? or do your mean the clear parts cement?                                                                                                                

Carl:  Sautéed;   zat wot yer lookin' four?  yew ol' word mister-er

disastermaster: nice graphic - it's what I need to get me back to the bench-- Thanks

 

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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