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Trouble with oil wash removal

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:11 PM
I would like to thank everyone for their input, a little time on the forum boarsd would have kept me from having to start again.

I'll keep everyone posted with my second attempt.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:42 AM
My 2 cents here is the same as stated above. Enamel paints take much longer to dry than acrylics.

I would wait a minimum of 2-3 days before attempting it.

Also, don't forget to spray a clear (gloss) coat to protect the base from the washes. I personally use Rust Oleum Clear. After my base is dry, I shoot a thin clear and let dry for 24hrs. The only place I do not use gloss clear, is on the lower hull by the road wheels. I apply the wash directly to the base coat. This gives a great build up and dirty look to it.

Once my oil wash is applied, I wait for 6 hrs before attemting removal (I also use Winsor& Newton with 100% mineral spirits) You could remove sooner but, most of the wash will be wiped away.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:05 PM
Bill, Welcome to the forum...

Yep I am with these guys.. I always basecoat with acrylic.. You can take a tank that was painted ten minutes ago with acrylic and dunk it in a bucket of thinner and it will just look at you like "are you stupid? that ain't gonna work" Big Smile [:D]

Sorry you had to find out the hard way... If you have to use enamel undercoats try this on for size. Some thinners are not as "violent" as others. I personally use Turpentine for washed rather than strait thinner. It isn't as harsh therefore it lessens the risk even more...
Oh and go out and get yourself an OLD 1970s Tamiya King Tiger to practice on...Big Smile [:D] How'bout it WIPW!!!! Am I right or what???Tongue [:P]
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:50 PM
I'm new to washes as well but I use acrylics which brings tomind another question. Is there a way to take off excess acrylic was without harming the enamel underneath? I'm using Testor's flat white in a rattle can.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:00 PM
I'm sorry Bill. I tried a wash over acrylic paint base and that did not happen to me. I'm still a bit of a newbie on washes, so a more experienced modeler might be more inclined to help out. Perhaps it didn't cure long enough, but I didn't wait any longer than that.

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  • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:59 PM
Welcome to the forum Bill. Sounds like the mineral spirits is what took the paint off since it can be used to clean enamel. You might could try putting a coat of future between your base coat and wash which will make removal of excess wash easier without hurting the base. Then apply a dull coat. I'm sure some one else will be able to add more.
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Trouble with oil wash removal
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:51 PM
I just completed a Tamiya M41 Walker Bulldog kit and painted it using Testors enamel Olive Drab from a rattle can. After 24 hrs, I applied an wash consisting of a mixture of mineral spirits & Winsor & Newton's black artist oil. I let the wash dry for several hours and began to remove the excess using a q-tip & mineral spirits. The mineral spirits removed both the excess wash as well as the base coat underneath?

Was the base coat not cured? Did I use the wrong type of thinner? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

BillQuestion [?]
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