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Russian Tank from movie The Beast?
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 4:27 PM
Was the tank from the movie The Beast a T62, T64, or a T72?. Love the movie and want to build a diorama from it. Any help from y'all would be great. Thanks much, and always remember our soldiers past and present.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:10 PM
Israeli Ti-67, i think.
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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:17 PM
What's the movie about? I remember another thread about this.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:28 PM
It is about a Russian Tank in Afganistan. The story is about a crew member who tries to lead a mutany against the Tank Commander, fails and is left for dead. The Afgan rebels find him and to spare his life he agrees to help them destroy the tank, which the Afgan Rebels call The Beast.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:35 PM
TI-67s are IDF modified T-55s correct?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:55 PM
Hi there!

TI-67's are either T-55 or T-62. 67 stands for the six day's war - the year that is.

I saw the movie and it's a nice one. If I remmember correctly it's a T-62. However to be on safe side, take a look at the shape of the turret, if you can tell the difference.

Another good place to look is the rear of the tank. If the back plate of the lower hull is a simple rectangle then it's a T-55, if it's a rectangle and at it's lower right side there is a a half circle then it's a T-62.
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| |
------------------- T-55


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-------------\__/-- T-62.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:56 PM
For some reason my recatangles ended up like this... ||

Hope you understand.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:41 PM
Thanks, I will have to watch the movie again to see what I can find out.
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Posted by Keyworth on Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:12 PM
I'm pretty sure the tank is a T-62.
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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, February 14, 2004 10:32 PM
I've got the movie on VHS and DVD, it is what model companies market as the Ti-67, which is an IDF modified T-55. It is made by Lindberg, Esci and Trumpeter.

The easiest way to tell a T-55 from a T-62 is the road wheels. On a T-55, there is a pronounced gap between the first and second road wheel. On a T-62, the first three road wheels are close together with a gap between the third and fourth road wheels and a real pronounced gap between the fourth and fifth road wheels.

Additionally, the gunner's auxillary sight on a T-55 is hotdog shaped whereas the T-62 auxillary sight is round. This is the port just to the left of the main gun if you are sitting in the turret.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 10:54 PM
How is Tamyias new T-55. It seems like a nice kit. Any comments would be great. Thanks to everyone who responded to my topic so fast. May all your models be Award Winners.


Thanks Greg
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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:09 AM
I have not built/bought that kit yet, but I have seen club members working on the kit and talked to friends who have built it. All I've talked to say it is one of Tamiya's best kits to date.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:56 AM
If you are talking the T-55A(#35257) than I am working on it and It is very nice kit. Goes together smooth and since mine got the Fruil tracks in it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:33 AM
Does anyone know if I can use Eduards T-55 detail set for Trumpeter on Trumpeters Ti-67. I am fairly new to using photo etched parts. Everyones help so far has been outstanding.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:35 PM
tamiyas T54/5 is REALLY nice and just BEGS for indie tracks. another half decent one is LEEs. the turret is a bit lower and has a rough casting look to it. it is worth getting.

watched the beast recently, againBig Smile [:D], and i got to wondering if it was a T62. the turret doesn't seem to be quite so high in the back as it does on a T54/5
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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by warmonger1
watched the beast recently, againBig Smile [:D], and i got to wondering if it was a T62. the turret doesn't seem to be quite so high in the back as it does on a T54/5
The big test is the road wheel layout. If you go by the road wheel spacing, it definitely is a T-55 hulled vehicle.
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Posted by mark956 on Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:24 PM
I have seen that movie. It was ok. Good luck on your project Greg.
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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:55 PM
Sounds like an interesting movie, will have to look for it.

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Posted by SprueOne on Saturday, February 5, 2011 6:29 PM

bwhite
Israeli Ti-67, i think.

 

Correct 

movie was filmed in Israel 

this is an old thread, yes I know, but I recently bought this movie on DVD and we like it. This link's information supports this 

imfdb.org

another popular war movie that was filmed in Israel was 'The Big Red One' 

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Posted by kruppw on Saturday, February 5, 2011 6:59 PM

It's a Isreali TI-67, the several easy ways to tell. First the road wheel spacing on a T-55 is much different than a T-62, 62's have uniformed spacing in the wheels, were a 55 does not. Also you can tell by the shap of the turret, the 55 has a horse shoe shape to it were a 62 is more round. Also there is a wedge shape to the the top of the turret on a 55.

 

t-62

Another way to tell a T-55 from a T-62 is to look at the TC and loaders hatch

T-62 loaders hatch

 

T-55 hatches

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, February 5, 2011 10:04 PM

62's have uniformed spacing in the wheels, were a 55 does not.

Not true. As Rob stated above, the T-62 has larger gaps between with the two rear road wheels than on the front three. The T-54/55 has a larger gap between the first two road wheels. Look at the ID chart you posted for confirmation. Hatches vary on different models of the T-55 and T-62.  Another recognition feature is the bore evacuator. On the T-54/55 it is at the muzzle end of the gun tube (100mm Rifled Main Gun). On the T-62 it is 1/3 of the way back from the muzzle (115mm Smooth Bore Main Gun). Of course seeing how the tanks in the movie were armed with Western 105mm guns (bore evacuator 2/3rds of the way back from the muzzle) this does not apply...Geeked

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, February 5, 2011 10:35 PM

T-62

T-54/55

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, February 7, 2011 10:18 PM

Ditto on the easiest way to ID a Ti-67 is the 105mm main gun... 

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