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US M4A4 to UK Sherman Mark V differences?

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US M4A4 to UK Sherman Mark V differences?
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:14 AM

Guys, picked up the Orange Box US M4A4 Sherman and some Bison brand decals for British Mark Vs used in the Pacific. Were there any obvious external differences between the US M4A4s and the British Sherman Mark Vs? I've looked at some photos but there weren't clear enough to really notice any modifications the UK made to their models.    

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Posted by Hellcat man on Friday, February 1, 2013 12:00 AM

The British Mark V was simply the designation that was given to lend-lease M4A4's, I don't believe in the stock version there were any major differences, it was the same tank

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 ALEX ZELYK

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Posted by T26E4 on Friday, February 1, 2013 7:21 AM

Externally, the main difference are the antenna mounts.  Some Sherman V units also added extra bins to personalize their tanks.  Often Commonwealth units added six footman's loops on the left front of the turret to store a camo net.  And the .50cal was rarely mounted.  Beyond these (and the swapping of radio equipment), you have the Sherman as it left the Chrysler plant.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 1, 2013 7:44 AM

Alex and Roy: Thanks guys! I didn't think there were any major differences but I'd heard the radio/wireless antenna were different. I hadn't heard about the footman's loops though. The photos I've been looking at of Shermans in Burma don't show extra bins but they're so laden with extra storage I wasn't able to spot any differences.

Now I know to look for the camo net storage and to replace the antenna mounts with the extras in the kit for the Firefly version (ya gotta love Dragon and all those extra parts they throw in).

Thanks!!!

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Posted by mikeymize on Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:43 PM

not sure if this is the right thread but what colors are used to paint the tracks on Shermans. I've got  the M4A3 circa  Battle of Bulge. Thinking either flat black or rust type color

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Posted by T26E4 on Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:44 AM

Sherman tracks were made in several varieties.  Some were all metal, some had rubber "shoes", some were composites.  Here's a run down

web.inter.nl.net/.../track_vvss.htm

For the DML 6255 M4A3 BoB kit, you get supplied both the T62 (incorrect for this version) and T48 rubber chevron.  Those had rubber shoes and metal end connectors.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 7, 2013 9:17 AM

I've been painting my treads with a dark grey for the rubber pads and a dark grey with a little metallic added for the metal teeth and then misting a brownish 'mud/dirt' colour over the whole thing- it looks reasonably correct to me.

There are a bunch of articles on the US Army Models site that helped me a great deal. And thanks for your input Roy, I've read your article a couple of times and keep coming back to it for help. 

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Posted by mikeymize on Friday, February 8, 2013 9:42 PM

Thanks for the input; I'm going with mr color tire black for the road wheels and raw sienna mixed with camo brown for the treads. The T 48 pads i'm just using flat black much of which will covered with dust pigments etc.

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