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Afrika Mustard and Desert Sand?

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  • From: Tennessee
Afrika Mustard and Desert Sand?
Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Monday, February 16, 2004 6:41 AM
Is the Africa mustard only used on German WWII desert armor?
Can Testor's Modern Desert Sand be used on WWII allied desert theatre vehicles?

Basicly what colors should be used on desert vehicles for WWII and present day?
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Monday, February 16, 2004 10:12 AM
really good question.
I've been confused regarding this issue as well. I know that for certain that Africa Mustard (model master) can not be used for modern, as it us FAR too dark.
On another note, where did you manage to find Modern Desert Sand? My hobby shop used to stock them, but the owner said that they went out of production a while ago.
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, February 16, 2004 11:46 AM
Polly Scale make an US Desert Sand. Tamiya make a Desert Yellow.
I haven't seen the Model Master paint, so I can't answer that question. I don't believe the Afrika desert yellow would work on any other tanks of the war. Britain used a lighter color sand in conjunction with other colors.

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Posted by kaleu on Monday, February 16, 2004 5:30 PM
My local hobby stores all carry ModelMaster Desert Sand. The managers know I buy a lot of desert sand and have never said anything about this color being OOP. As for Afrika Mustard, I've never seen any other country use this color other than Germany.
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Posted by zokissima on Monday, February 16, 2004 5:35 PM
I believe all stores carry the paint cups of Modern Desert Sand. I should have made this clear. I do not see modern desert sand in a rattle-can. Maybe the guy working there had a miscommunication. I don' tknow, all I know is I'd really love to find it in a rattlecan. I'm too afraid of using enamel paints in my airbrush, so I've stuck with acrylic only for that, and Tamiya does not have a good colour match to that particular colour, as far as I know anyways.
If anyone has any suggestions/tips,please let me know...
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  • From: Tennessee
Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Monday, February 16, 2004 5:50 PM
I my local Hobby Lobby carries the Model Master Modern Desert Sand though the sticker on the shelf only say "Desert Sand". I assume they changed the name or the color at some time. Anyway Modern Desert Sand is in that slot now. I've only seriously got into this hobby about three months ago so I have no idea of what is in or out of production only what i can find on the shelves. I beleive my local Hobby Town carries it too. Lobby is a little cheaper though...Shy [8)]
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Monday, February 16, 2004 6:16 PM
hmm, maybe I'll take a look at that. It's possible that they changed the colour
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 2:29 AM
What colors should be used to wash/weather both Desert Sand and Afrika Mustard in desert campaigns?
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 8:11 AM
I use burnt-umber, artists acrylics. I think pretty much any medium to dark brown wash will do. A lot of people use oils for this. I personally haven't tried, but from what I've seen, oils give a better result
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  • From: Tennessee
Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 8:29 AM
I here the same about oils too but i'm not ready to move up to that level yet!LOL
I do have some sable brown and some burnt umber acryic paint laying around. the burnt umber just looks so dark. I'll give it a try because I hear this color used alot on the forum.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:37 AM
Yeah, I haven't felt comfortable with oils yet. THey're really easy to blend, but it's a mess I'd rather not get into right now. My work area is my basement, which I share with all sorts of junk and tools, etc, so I don't want to bring in any more un-needed equipment.
Burnt umber, EVERYONE mentions somewhere. Give it a shot. I use it a lot. I even water it down and use it to create a splashed-mud effect.
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