can't get right colour match

zokissima

Member since
July 2003
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

can't get right colour match

Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:23 AM

I've been steadily using model masters (testors) olive drab out of a rattle can. However, it is getting a little expensive, and since I've recently acquired a new airbrush, I thought I'd save some money. I refust to use enamels in the thing (it's an aztek A4700 airbrush with the testors miniblue compressor, not the best thing in the world, but good enough till I get my old iwata back). Anyways, I have so far been unable to find a correct colour match in acrylic. None of the tamiya colours I've tried are an exact match.
Help?

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cassibill

Member since
February 2003
From: Indiana, USA

Posted by cassibill on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:40 AM

Isn't Model Master Acryl a match to the same enamel? I'm rather surprised if it isn't.

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zokissima

Member since
July 2003
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:50 AM

You'd think so, but no. It isn't quite exact. maybe it's the acrylic properties that make it so. Technically, the shade is exact, but once dry, it looks...off

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cassibill

Member since
February 2003
From: Indiana, USA

Posted by cassibill on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:01 PM

I can't quite remember which way it was but someone said either the enamel or the acryl was more flat when dry. Maybe an over coat or a primer would have helped. How much do you weather? If the match is fairly close a little weathering would help hide it. If it needs "bleached" then a little time in a sunny window could do the trick. The color on the real thing wasn't exactly uniform any way and paint makers didn't match the colors for the real thing.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!! Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:10 PM

zokissima, have you tried stirring the acrylic paint in the bottle? then shake it for about a minute. just a thought.

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zokissima

Member since
July 2003
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:49 PM

hmm, letting it sunbleach sounds like a good idea. Unfortunately, I'll have to wait a couple of weeks till it's warm enough outside to try that. Thanks for the tips tho. I've been pulling my hair out on this for about two months now, so at least I have pleanty of leads to follow up on.
Thanks a lot ppl! :)

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cassibill

Member since
February 2003
From: Indiana, USA

Posted by cassibill on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:20 PM

The heat isn't the bleacher the UV light is. Set it on a window sill.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!! Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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zokissima

Member since
July 2003
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:20 PM

k, I'll give that a shot.
Unfortunately, I misphrased myself. I haven't seen sunshine in the last couple of weeks cuz of the snow. That's what I meant :)

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:06 PM

Another point that may help, although Olive Drab had a specific formula, it did vary a bit with each manufacturer (Massey-Harris for example used a very light OD during WWII), also, if applied in the field by a camouflage unit it would vary even more. Add to this weathering, spilled fuel, fading, grease, dust, etc, etc, and the color would be quite different from vehicle to vehicle.

Ron

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Spamicus

Member since
April 2003
From: Central Wisconsin

Posted by Spamicus on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:56 PM

I've noticed the Model Master enamel and acryl are different shades, I tend to use the enamel for U.S. equipment and the acryl on U.K. stuff. My own little quirk I suppose. Any way, As the other guys have already said, a bit of heavy weathering and they should blend okay.

Steve

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:48 AM

Have you tried Polly Scale? They have at least 4 different shades of olive drab in their paint line. Maybe one of them will match what you want.

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lgl007

Member since
May 2003

Posted by lgl007 on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:43 AM

Hey,

I have to agree with Poniatoski on this one. I have read time and time again that when the paint was applied in the field you could find almost every shade of a particular color. In fact I have read about German units mixing paints because they didn't have enought of one particular color... so I'm pretty sure that even if this color is off it won't make much of a difference for authenticities sake, unless you are going for the "off the assembly line" look...

-Greg

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