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churchill tank question
Posted by Tankluver on Monday, July 29, 2013 1:53 AM

Hi all, im reading a book about the dieppe raid, and looking through the pics of the churchill tanks, and I keep on seeing the epic of the Churchill tank, with what looks to be like an antenna raised on te engine deck, is this an antenna or is it something else, would it be on all Mk III churchill tanks.

http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=20462&sid=48fc23f089ee50e6ece1a4b93c5d753f

heres a link to a pic I found

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Monday, July 29, 2013 3:11 AM

If you mean the 2 bent pipes as here by Inside the Armour (other vendors like Millicast & Resicast are available Whisper) they are the exhaust pipe extensions, bolted directly to the the exhaust manifold, & part of the deep wading kit. 

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Posted by Tankluver on Monday, July 29, 2013 1:53 PM

That makes sense, now was that on every Churchill at dieppe? Or just on a few

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 29, 2013 2:06 PM

I would imagine they would be on all. Would make sense to only fit them to some. Heres some more

  

 As for which mark of Churchill, they were a mix of Mk I, II and III.And it says they were all adapted to wade in upto 6 feet of water.

http://northirishhorse.net/articles/Dieppe/16.html

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 29, 2013 2:13 PM

And if your after a kit, which I am guessing you are, Churchill are bringing one out(or may have even released it).

www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/.../afvclub.html

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 29, 2013 3:05 PM

I do not think that Churchill kit has been released yet.

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 29, 2013 3:20 PM

I did find one site which said 25th July, but as we know, that doesn't always mean anything.

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Posted by Tankluver on Monday, July 29, 2013 3:44 PM

Yeah, I was thinking of just getting a Mk. III and going from there

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Posted by Tankluver on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:59 PM

www.1999.co.jp/.../10220194

wouldnt this kit be the same? I was looking at the plans for it and it looks as if it has the deep wading kit on it?

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:08 PM

I can't see the wading kit in the sprue layout. And there would also be the issue of markings. And I am not sure about the gun. The Mk III had a 6 pounder.

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Posted by Tankluver on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:46 PM

is the 6 pounder equivalant to a 75mm gun, there is a mrkin in there for 1942 I believe

is this a better kit for a dieppe churchill

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:31 PM

I believe a 6 pounder is about 57mm, but I am far from an expert on these types of weapons. I do think that second kit would be a better option. Though as hide from the snorkels, I am not sure what other visible changes were made.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:22 PM

Bish is correct, the 6 Pdr was a 57mm gun. It had a higher velocity and better AP capabilities than the US 75mm gun that was later mounted in Churchills, Cromwells, etc. but the 75mm had a superior HE round.

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:38 PM

I see, I heard the joke about the dieppe raid was that the Germans thoughts the churchills were used cause the British wanted to get rid of them

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Posted by bitbite on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:59 PM

That's funny.  I hope it's true.

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