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1/35 Cyber Hobby Tiger I "Kursk" Build Log

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  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Saturday, September 7, 2013 8:39 AM

Hi EBergerud,

Thank you for sharing this build log, and congratulations on your build!

It is always very interesting to see how the Kursk Tigers are being depicted, very tricky since new batches where arriving, the paint schemes where being changed, the old vehicles where being upgraded.

The scheme you have chosen seems quite common among modelers, I have seen # 123 (from your thread) being depicted this way before. But also in Green over Panzer Grau and Green over Dark Yellow.

I am working on # 114 of 505 myself, going to do that one in broad red brown stripes over Dark Yellow.

Not sure if there is any need to simulate any surface texture on the Tiger, the plates where rolled metal and should be quite smooth.

I like the way you have set out to test new techniques, I would probably have been more restrictive but I do think you have represented a Tiger that has been rolling for days in combat very well!

Thank you for sharing!

Very Best Regards

Johan  

  • Member since
    February 2010
  • From: Berkeley CA/St. Paul MN
1/35 Cyber Hobby Tiger I "Kursk" Build Log
Posted by EBergerud on Friday, August 30, 2013 5:07 AM

1/35 Cyber Hobby Tiger I “Kursk”

Paints: AK Dunekgelb Modulation Set; Vallejo Model Colors; Revell Aqua Colors

Weathering: Artist oils; AK Streaking Grime; Iwata Com.Art Acrylics; MIG & Sennelier Pigments

This kit was my first Tiger – haven't done a Panther or a Panzer IV either so it's about time. This model is a dumbed down version of an earlier DML “early” Tiger and a CH “Wittmann Tiger – Kursk.” PE is limited and it has DS tracks – neither fact is a debit in my book.

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This was not Dragon's finest hour. DML is not famous for their instructions and these were particularly bad with a number of steps unclear and many parts either missing or misnumbered. (There was a very large number of unneeded parts: good for my parts stash but it certainly made finding the correct items tougher at first.) Fortunately a wise head on Missing Lynx named David Nickles provided a “tweak list” that was invaluable. (Unfortunately he knew so much more about tanks than I do that I wasn't always able to follow his lead. But he did track down a number of very odd errors in the instructions and the part numbers. Considering how many duplicate parts were in this kit, Mr. Nickles saved me a lot of time.) If you're curious about the build check my post or look in on the thread Mr. Nickles started which has better hands than mine working on this kit:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/message/1361225554/my+complete+orange+box+Tiger+tweak+list+%28long%29

Although there were adventures until the very end (who knew that if you were going to use DS tracks you wanted to put them on with half the wheels attached, not all?) things did get done. And although I cursed a blue streak often enough, there were many moments when the remarkable Dragon precision showed itself. The really important fits, like hull and body, or gun and turret, were excellent and I was often surprised how perfectly very small parts functioned. (If you knew what they were for that is.) Because of some very serious driver error (details are classified) I had to strip the entire base coat which only took about an hour using ISP and a stiff brush. Glad I was using water based paints – methinks it would have tougher with Gunze or Tamiya. It was for the best. I had followed the advice of Adam Wilder on his latest DVD (Real Metal) and worked on the major armor plate with slow drying plastic cement mixed with putty. The result was actually very good, although it's hard to see with the weathering done.

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I bought AK's Dunkelgelb Modulation Kit. It worked pretty well I guess, but in retrospect I think I could have gotten the same result by using Vallejo's Dunkelgelb primer and lightened or darkened coats with Vallejo Model Color paints. Here's the beast after a base coat of dunkel has been applied to the primer and preshade:

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Here are a couple after the light, highlight and shine dunkelgelb has been put on:

There are a lot of photos of Kursk tigers and some very good modelers have built them. Kursk was fought before the “3 color” camo scheme became standard. From what I can see the Tigers were painted with stripes that followed no particular rhyme or reason in position, thickness. Some had lots of little thin stripes, others looked more like late war tanks with large panels painted green. As the kit's instructions dispensed with a view from the top, I looked at some other kits online and gave a fair approximation of what I think the kit was looking for. Wasn't sure, however, what color it should be. The call from Dragon was for Gunze khaki green. I saw some terrific work from excellent modelers that applied the kind of green-grey seen on some Afrika Korps vehicles – almost reminded me of a khaki olive drab. Most modelers used some shade of olive green. I had also picked up the AK “Green/Brown” modulation set to go with the dunkelgelb. I don't know about later tanks but the AK colors were much too green. So I made my own brew out of Vallejo Model Color olive green, reflective green and Model Air olive gray. All the camo schemes I saw were very soft – I'm sure the tanks were painted dunkel and given stripes on the field. So soft and irregular. I'm a C+ hand with an airbrush but this could only be handled free hand. So I drew thin lines of Revell Aqua Color olive green so I could think about keeping the airbrush working right and not where it was going. It did stress my skills. A hard pattern is much easier – so is dappling an aircraft with little dots and squiqqles. So there were errors in lare number, especially at first. (I was using a new HS Infinity with a .15 tip and it was a real help.) But as I got the hang of things the situation settled down. It did mean, however, that the stripes ended up a bit thicker than planned – that was the easiest way to fix errant spray. Also added some extra stripes to cover sins. No accuracy issue really as putting stripes on Tigers seemed to have been an exercise in individual whim at Kursk. Overall I think it worked out okay. Please note that weathering has not yet begun and the finished model will look quite different. Anyway, here's the striped tiger awaiting a full scale assault of tints, washes, pigments and dry mud:

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There was a lot of weathering involved. I did three filters and some highlighting with oils. (I followed a tip I picked up on Model Warship: use Ronsol as a thinner and oil paints dry very quickly and there's no damage that I can detect.) This was followed by AK streaking grime. And a lot of pigments.

I could be accused of over weathering this one. Perhaps I'd plead guilty. Two factors guided my approach. I don't have the experience or natural skill at this hobby to find my own answers to a model that's both historically sound and an attractive build. So every kit I try something else. In this case, I used a lot of “Spanish School” techniques found on DVDs from Mig Jimenez and Adam Wilder. I also have Mig's wonderful book “FAQ2.” I also consulted the complex approach to weathering found in Michael Rinaldi's “TankArt Volume I. I can't tell you that I followed a bouncing ball. For one thing these sources give quite an array of possibilities. The real world interfered badly, so I didn't have the time needed delve deeply into Rinaldi's complex use of pigments and oils. His results are very impressive and as I've got Volume II (allied armor) I'll his approach my best shot on my next AFV which I think will be a Tasca Sherman. But as it stood, I spent a lot of time trying this, that, and another thing. Doing this almost guaranteed an excess of weathering – but it's a price I'm willing to pay for the experience.

Second, I think a Kursk Tiger deserved some pretty aggressive weathering. Citadel only lasted for a few days, but prior to the battle both armies were in intense maneuvers as Hitler waited for Panthers to show up. The Germans knew Citadel was a desperate gamble and took real chances. Although the day of the tank “cavalry charge” were over by mid-43, the Germans put their tanks very far forward hoping for a fast breakthrough even if it cost them. In tactics both grand and small the Wehrmacht attempted to put their heavy tanks forward and support them with the older and more vulnerable Panzers III and IV. (Painful losses due to mines resulted.) This would have put the Tigers in the line of fire. (And let's not forget that after Citadel was canceled, the fun really began as the hoped for orderly withdrawal of German armor to Italy turned into a mad dash to the Dnieper River when the Soviets ouflanked both Model and Manstein.) So we have tanks that were quite new, but well broken in. And I think they would have been under heavy fire. When weathering gurus talk about chipping they advise looking for places that would receive wear: fair enough. But it's my guess that shrapnel from artillery and mortars, machine gun and small arms fire from infantry (not to mention anti-tank rifles and aircraft mounted canon) would have been prime culprits. And lets' not forget that the reason Tigers were built in the first place was that they could bring a powerful direct fire weapon to the battlefield but still withstand the much of the “storm of steel.” The Germans didn't lose many Tigers at Kursk (many were lost on the later retreat when a mechanical failure likely meant a tank loss in addition to casualties from powerful Soviet tanks and anti-tank gun) but it would have been a tough job to hide a Tiger moving forward and they would have drawn fire. And of course the crew was moving around. So there is a lot of chipping.

Kursk was actually a pretty good place for a battle – sounds a bit like Wisconsin without quite as much water. But dry weather would have been the norm and the Tigers were all pretty new. Hence, except for the mufflers and exhaust I used almost no rust. Although perhaps I should have used artistic license, I also avoided wet mud. But I'm sure that some nice summer sun would have led to some fading, wear and rain would have left a good supply of streaking. Above all, these tanks would have been dirty and dusty. If fifty ton tanks were in action they would have been throwing buckets of dirt and dust – whopping buckets of it. (I've interviewed WWII tankers and the subject of dust and dirt comes up real fast. Imagine driving down a dry road with hatches open behind another tank.) The filters and enamel AK streaking grime that I used began to wear and darken the very bright and heavily modulated dunkelgelb base. I use Iwata Com.Art acrylics for pinwashes. This product is used by railroad fans I like it a lot. It comes in opaque and transparent colors, is a cinch to remove if there's too much and because it doesn't really adhere well to plastic it gives a distinct look grime (if dark) or white wash (if light.) There's a color called “old oil” that when mixed with gloss varnish does a nice job of fuel stains. (I also used AK enamel fuel stains and the two approaches are indistinguishable to my eyes except that Com.Art dries fast and doesn't smell.) The PE over the engines was given a good blast of the stuff and I think that looks pretty good.

All pigments were applied without any kind of white glue or acrylic medium: I used MIG and Sennelier pigments fixed first with a hand spray of Tamiya X-20 (or ISP – same difference) followed by a misting of Gamsol Oderless Mineral Spirits from the airbrush to fix it. Again, I wanted a good dose of dry mud and clumped dirt but not wet mud. I commit sins with dust. I know many wise heads (like Jimenez, Wilder and Rinaldi) like to use a light dusting of Tamiya acrylics to emulate dust. I beg to differ. My pigments are so fine that when slowly dusted on with an airbrush they look like dust. Clean it up – it is dust. I did end up with one problem that I'm not sure how best to handle. The horizontal surfaces would get the most sun and hence the most fading during the modulation stage. (You can still tell that the top of the turret is lighter than the sides.) However, it is those surfaces that would get the most dust and dirt. The vertical surfaces are shaded more darkly, but that's where you see the streaking. Rinaldi talks about this dynamic and argues that good weathering will darken a model sometimes substantially. Perhaps I should have adjusted the base coats more for scale and lightened the whole kit from the start. I could have also either kept more dirt and dust off the horizontal surfaces or kept streaking and splatter off the sides. That would have led to more visual contrast. Indeed, I frequently seal an AFV model with a satin/flat finish over a very matte hull. But I'm not sure it would have reflected what a vehicle looked like during the summer of 1943 because lot of dust is going to cut reflection. So I'm not there yet. And if anyone has any good ideas, I'd be glad to hear them. That said, it was my first Tiger, it was a very challenging build and great fun. I don't think I'm going to throw it away tomorrow.

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Eric

 

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